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09/22/2005 11:33 PM  
for you guy's,and gal's that have or know someone that has these tires. how do they do aired down for sand hill climb's? my opinon for the mud: great!!! but the sand hill's i'm not so sure on??? looking at buying some 38.5x15 or 39.5x18. rim's not sure? a freind has a set of 15x10 8 lug,and says they will fit with no problem. some people told me i would have to grind on the caliper's to keep them from rubbing.

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09/23/2005 5:13 AM  
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for you guy's,and gal's that have or know someone that has these tires. how do they do aired down for sand hill climb's? my opinon for the mud: great!!! but the sand hill's i'm not so sure on??? looking at buying some 38.5x15 or 39.5x18. rim's not sure? a freind has a set of 15x10 8 lug,and says they will fit with no problem. some people told me i would have to grind on the caliper's to keep them from rubbing.

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Just make sure you have some serious gears to turn them properly. You are talking 4.88's 5.13's here minimum.

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09/23/2005 7:52 AM  
WHAT YEAR AGAIN WAS YOUR TRUCK? 84 CORRECT. 1ST DO YOU HAVE THE CORRECT AXLES FOR THOSE SHOES? 10 BOLTS WILL ONLY UP FOR SO LONG. THEY WILL BRAKE LIKE TWIGS. YES, YOU NEED TO GRIND DOWN THE CALIPERS THATS ON A D60 AXLE. NOT ON A TEN BOLT. GO W/ THE 15 RIM DUE, TO CHEAPER TIRES & STRONGER TIRE WALL 18 IF YOU THE BLING BLING FACTOR & BUSTING A TIRE BEAD FASTER.

IF YOU GO W/ THE 38 W/ THE D60 OR 10 BOLT YOU STILL NEED TO INSTALL HYDRO STEERING DUE TO YOU WILL BOIL YOUR STEERING FLUID. 4.56 WILL BE THE MIN. I WOULD GO W/ THE 4.88S. I DONT THINK THEY MAKE A GEAR IN 5.13 FOR A 10 BOLT. SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PRODJECT.

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09/23/2005 7:57 AM  
YOUR GONNA START MAKING ME WORK ON MY K5 SOON.

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09/23/2005 8:43 AM  
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WHAT YEAR AGAIN WAS YOUR TRUCK? 84 CORRECT. 1ST DO YOU HAVE THE CORRECT AXLES FOR THOSE SHOES? 10 BOLTS WILL ONLY UP FOR SO LONG. THEY WILL BRAKE LIKE TWIGS. YES, YOU NEED TO GRIND DOWN THE CALIPERS THATS ON A D60 AXLE. NOT ON A TEN BOLT. GO W/ THE 15 RIM DUE, TO CHEAPER TIRES & STRONGER TIRE WALL 18 IF YOU THE BLING BLING FACTOR & BUSTING A TIRE BEAD FASTER.

IF YOU GO W/ THE 38 W/ THE D60 OR 10 BOLT YOU STILL NEED TO INSTALL HYDRO STEERING DUE TO YOU WILL BOIL YOUR STEERING FLUID. 4.56 WILL BE THE MIN. I WOULD GO W/ THE 4.88S. I DONT THINK THEY MAKE A GEAR IN 5.13 FOR A 10 BOLT. SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PRODJECT.


Good point on the axles. I do not belive I would try serious mudding with 38's amd a 10 bolt and certainly not with a locker. You "might" get by up front with a open diff but I would dump a 10 bolt rear end before I even tried it and would not wastes the money of gear for it. A often overlooked rear axle in a GM 9.5 14 bolt. It is a semifloater and generals can be found with 6 lug hubs and is a good match to 38's or so. It is a lot stronger across the board than a 10 bolt and about the equal of a D60. The only draw back about it is that it is limited to a 4.88 as max ratio.

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09/23/2005 9:01 AM  
THE LARGEST TIRE I WOULD PUT ON THOSE 10 BOLTS ARE 36 OR 37 & THATS STILL PUSHING IT. YOU CAN FIND SOME 14BSF W/ 4.56GEARS, LS OR A LOCKER OUT OF A HEAVY HALF TON TRUCKS OR SOME CARRIER VEH. YOU CAN BUY A LOCKER FROM DETROIT FOR IT. IT RUNS AROUND FOR LOCKER $650.00

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09/23/2005 10:12 AM  
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THE LARGEST TIRE I WOULD PUT ON THOSE 10 BOLTS ARE 36 OR 37 & THATS STILL PUSHING IT. YOU CAN FIND SOME 14BSF W/ 4.56GEARS, LS OR A LOCKER OUT OF A HEAVY HALF TON TRUCKS OR SOME CARRIER VEH. YOU CAN BUY A LOCKER FROM DETROIT FOR IT. IT RUNS AROUND FOR LOCKER $650.00




You are a bit more generous than me and I would say around 33's if you run a mechancal locker. Nice thing about the 9.5 is that a lot of after market lockers are availble for it loke ARB's and such where as the 10.5's staddle mounted pinion limit carrier design and size. ALso the GovLoc in a 9.5 is a LOT sturdier than the one in the 10 bolt.

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09/23/2005 2:03 PM  
well guy's! it's a 79 shortbed 1/2 ton 8"lift 1976 3/4 ton axel's corp.14 rear dana44 hd front with 4.10'sF/R detroit locker rear/ox locker front.LOOKING FOR A DANA 60 FRONT. WITH 38.5X15X16.5 GUMBO MUDDER'S. FRESH 355CU.375 HP 400LB.S TORQUE 40 MILES ON REBUILD.DROVE IT TO WORK TODAY. Front tire's wearing pretty thin on tread.back one's half tread.

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09/23/2005 3:27 PM  
THE GOOD THE 14 BOLTSF. THE BAD D44 ITS JUST AS WEAK AS THE 10 BOLT. DONT HAVE THE FRONT LOCKER ENGAGED WHEN TURNINIG. JUST LETTING YOU KNOW YOU CAN USE THE OUTERS OF THE 10 BOLT, IF THE SPLINE COUNT ARE THE SAME.

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09/23/2005 3:40 PM  
YOU KNOW WHAT? 3YRS AGO I WAS RUNNING 38.5 W/ 14 BOLTSF DETROIT & 456 GEARS & A 10BOLT W/ 456 GEARS & WELDED (THE CHEAP WAY). I DO A LOT MORE ROCK CRAWLING. FRONT HAD X STEERING W/ HYDRO ASST. WHEELED THE PISS OUT OF IT, ROLLING OVER SLAMMING THE FRONT END HARD TO THE GROUND & THAT 10 BOLT NEVER BROKE ANYTHING.

AT A CAR CRUSH SEVERAL TRUCK CLUBS WERE OUT THEIR & FREAKED OUT THEY SAW THE 38 W/ A WELDED 10 BOLT. ONE GUY TRIED TO LAUNCH HIS TRUCK OVER SEVERAL CARS. HE THINKED HIS SH!T DOESNT STINK & CALLED ME OUT. I CLEARED ONE & HALF CARS ALL FOUR TIRES. SLAMMED HARD & STILL DIDNOT BRAKE ANYTHING. I SWEAR.

I WAS IN REALLY SORE FOR 3 DAYS FROM THE LANDING THO. DAM 5 POINT HARNESS I WAS SORE FROM THE LOWER PART.

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09/23/2005 3:42 PM  
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yep! twisted a coulpe front shaft's on the sand hill's

havn't broke any ujoint's in the bog's.yet! still waiting for that to happen.LOL! good thing i have alot of spare part's for the dana 44.,but with a set of bogger's up front I'm sure thing's will get worst.for sure!

so how about the air down on them boggers? ,and them 15x10 wheel's?

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09/23/2005 3:47 PM  
15 TO 20 W/ OUT BEADLOCKS YOU WILL BE ALRIGHT. I GOT LOCKS ON MY SWAMPERS GOT THEM AT 5 IN THE REAR & 10 UP FRONT DUE TO WEIGHT.15X10 W/ DIY4X WELD ON LOCKS. THEY ARE WORTH THE MONEY. $275.00

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09/23/2005 4:04 PM  
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did you have to gring on them brake cal.. up front? with them 15 in. rim.

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09/23/2005 7:50 PM  
nope. fit like a glove

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09/24/2005 4:05 AM  
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THE GOOD THE 14 BOLTSF. THE BAD D44 ITS JUST AS WEAK AS THE 10 BOLT. DONT HAVE THE FRONT LOCKER ENGAGED WHEN TURNINIG. JUST LETTING YOU KNOW YOU CAN USE THE OUTERS OF THE 10 BOLT, IF THE SPLINE COUNT ARE THE SAME.


A little known fact is that if you cannot find a D60 for the front, if you find a D44 from a older full size jeep truck or Cherokee Cheif, they used a D44 with heavier axle tubes than any other 4x4 amd install some aftermarket axle and it will be pretty tuff too. Also 4.10 is way too tall for 38's (kinda like 3.08's with 30's) and you should be runnin at least 4.88's (5.13's even better)as even 4.56 is not really enough and the deeper gears will improve traction and greatly reduce drive line stress too and make truck feel a lot stronger as well.

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09/24/2005 6:48 AM  
I RAN 456GEARS & I DIDNT FEEL ANY DIFF BETWEEN THE TWO. YOU ALSO COULD RUN CHROMOLY SHAFTS ALSO

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09/24/2005 7:40 AM  
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I RAN 456GEARS & I DIDNT FEEL ANY DIFF BETWEEN THE TWO. YOU ALSO COULD RUN CHROMOLY SHAFTS ALSO


Between the two of what? If it was between a 4.10 and a 4.56 it is because you likely needed more gears than a 4.56.

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09/24/2005 8:55 AM  
BETWEEN A 4.56 TO A 4.88 REALLY NO CHANGE








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09/24/2005 10:42 AM  
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BETWEEN A 4.56 TO A 4.88 REALLY NO CHANGE




I do agree that the difference between a 4.88 and a 4.56 is not that great BUT when you are coming up from a 4.10, the step is more noticeable with a jump to a 4.88 than to a 4.56. Once you are at a 4.56, you really need to go to a 5.13 if you need a bigger boost.

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09/24/2005 11:17 AM  
I AGREE. HEY, SNOMAN & WIDE OPEN WHAT PART OF THE COUNTRY YOU GUYS FROM. IM FROM SAN ANTONIO, TX. (THE HOME OF THE CHAMPIONSHIP SPURS & GOING TO REPEAT TOO) SORRY, HOME OF THE N.O. SAINTS ALSO 3 GAMES

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09/24/2005 12:22 PM  
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I AGREE. HEY, SNOMAN & WIDE OPEN WHAT PART OF THE COUNTRY YOU GUYS FROM. IM FROM SAN ANTONIO, TX. (THE HOME OF THE CHAMPIONSHIP SPURS & GOING TO REPEAT TOO) SORRY, HOME OF THE N.O. SAINTS ALSO 3 GAMES
I am in the midwest in Ohio though I lived in the rockies for a while, Heck I even "lived" in San Antonio for a several months in the very early 70's while in the military. I was not a lifer though, I did my time and got out. Been owning and driving 4x4 since early 70's. I my lifetime I have owned about 8 of them as I recall and currently own 3. I tend to keep them a while as I have had one for over 20 years (that I plan to restore someday) and another for 16 years. My newest one was bought new almost 6 years ago. It takes a while to get to know them really well and I do not like starting all over again with a new 4x4 much and they are not as well built today as in years past.

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09/25/2005 7:15 AM  
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on the gear thing! I had a blazer k5 with 3/4 ton axel's with 4.88's.The performace was out standing,but drive ability was a littel on the high side for me with that 350 turbo in it. my 79 is much better on the rpm's at 55 mph. then them 4.88,but the performance dropped a lot.now! I have a fresh rebuilt 355 putting out about 370 hp. with around 400lb's torque..the motor is a bit much for trail rideing ,but the performance is up there with the 4.88 gear's.running 4.10's!I thought about doing a tran's swap with a 700r4/4.88 gear's.I know this would be the best upgrade.<but I'm happy with the performance with what ihave.every thing i do is all upper rmp anyway,getting out of the hole is no problem ether.for the sand drag's.then the local bogg's 3 hour's from here.,but the sand hill's is were I'm messing up my front axel shaft's. just another ? question for you guy's. any of you runnig the:ox yoke universal joint's?I think that is what they are called.they have broze bushing's instead of neddel bearing's.

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09/25/2005 7:19 AM  
man my spelling suck's.LOL! I ment bronze,needel bearing's. sorry about my spelling .

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09/25/2005 8:46 AM  
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on the gear thing! I had a blazer k5 with 3/4 ton axel's with 4.88's.The performace was out standing,but drive ability was a littel on the high side for me with that 350 turbo in it. my 79 is much better on the rpm's at 55 mph. then them 4.88,but the performance dropped a lot.now! I have a fresh rebuilt 355 putting out about 370 hp. with around 400lb's torque..the motor is a bit much for trail rideing ,but the performance is up there with the 4.88 gear's.running 4.10's!I thought about doing a tran's swap with a 700r4/4.88 gear's.I know this would be the best upgrade.<but I'm happy with the performance with what ihave.every thing i do is all upper rmp anyway,getting out of the hole is no problem ether.for the sand drag's.then the local bogg's 3 hour's from here.,but the sand hill's is were I'm messing up my front axel shaft's. just another ? question for you guy's. any of you runnig the:ox yoke universal joint's?I think that is what they are called.they have broze bushing's instead of neddel bearing's.


A 7000R4 would be a wise swap indeed, and well worth the effort. Get a 87 to 91 model (or earlier one that has been brought up to 87 standards as they got as good as they get by 87.) A 700R4 with 4.88 or 5.13's would be a killer (even with 5.13's your effective OD ratio would be about 3.6 to one) and with the 700R4's deeper first gear (3.06 vs 2.52) it would "explode" out of the hole when need be with 4.88 or 5.13 gears.

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09/25/2005 10:13 AM  
yep. it would

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09/25/2005 10:14 AM  
O'my gosh.HE!HE!I was out on the back road's last night for a test run. off idel.put'ter to the wood.tire's rolled some smoke,and put her side ways. I felt like I was back in my camero with that 383 stroker motor in it.NO BULL S??? it was on a packed dirt road,but still.she move's out better then I would have ever thoughtwith 4.10/38'son it.better then it did with that 300hp k5 with 4.88 with 38's under it.man! the power upgrade was well worth the money. by the way the reason I broke them front axel shaft's was the wheel hope on the sand hill's.My self I couldn't beleve it broke.but it did well that was 2 year's ago.no problem's with that,but the ujoint's are snapping.I can deal with that. have you herd of them ujoint's with the bronze bushing's? not sure who makes them.I've seen them and they look alot beefer then any ujoint I've bought in the past.

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O'my gosh.HE!HE!I was out on the back road's last night for a test run. off idel.put'ter to the wood.tire's rolled some smoke,and put her side ways. I felt like I was back in my camero with that 383 stroker motor in it.NO BULL S??? it was on a packed dirt road,but still.she move's out better then I would have ever thoughtwith 4.10/38'son it.better then it did with that 300hp k5 with 4.88 with 38's under it.man! the power upgrade was well worth the money. by the way the reason I broke them front axel shaft's was the wheel hope on the sand hill's.My self I couldn't beleve it broke.but it did well that was 2 year's ago.no problem's with that,but the ujoint's are snapping.I can deal with that. have you herd of them ujoint's with the bronze bushing's? not sure who makes them.I've seen them and they look alot beefer then any ujoint I've bought in the past.




Believe it or not, deeper gears help control wheel hope from reduced axle/driveshaft torque wind up.

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09/25/2005 5:21 PM  
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Heck I even "lived" in San Antonio for a several months in the very early 70's while in the military.


Hey SnoMan - what branch were you in?

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09/25/2005 5:25 PM  
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Originally posted by wide open have you herd of them ujoint's with the bronze bushing's? not sure who makes them.I've seen them and they look alot beefer then any ujoint I've bought in the past.


I think you might be talking about the new CTM u-joints. http://www.ctmracing.com/category.aspx?categoryID=73

These are, for all intent and purpose, indestructible. Nearly every professional rock-crawler is running them and more often than not, 40-spline CMoly shafts are snapping before the u-joints let go.

IMHO - I'll run gold seal or good quality joints. If something is going to break on the trail, I'd rather it be my u-joint (20 minute fix, trailside), and NOT a shaft! I consider my u-joints my drivetrain "fuse".

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09/25/2005 6:08 PM  
yes! those are the one's. I agree with you webby4x4.I'm running bruce force joint's up front from auto zone.the hold up pretty good.Have better luck with these then them trw's i use to use.

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09/25/2005 6:35 PM  
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Heck I even "lived" in San Antonio for a several months in the very early 70's while in the military.


Hey SnoMan - what branch were you in?


I was a SAC guy and supportted the B52 that bomb Nam out of Guam they were rotated for my stateside base and a few others along with personal. WHen they got to "wormy" they would send them back to the states and replace them with one in better repair. We used to hate it while we were stateside because we would ge a plane flying good with few problems they would take it and give you a clunker in its place but if you were TDY yourself you likely getting fresher planes from states. They flew them things into the ground and scraped a lot of them shortly after the Nam war and were only able to salvage 80 "B52D's" to rebuild and fly tell mid 80's. Only the B52H is left flying today and I worked on about half of them too. If you ever go to the US AirForce Museum in Dayton Ohio, I actually worked on the B52D there when it was still on flying status in early 70's. The old B52 D's were a site taking off with over 30 tons of bombs to fly a 15 hour Nam mission. No plane flying today can match it in bomb load including the 52H still flying. (Sorry about getting on my soap box)

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09/25/2005 6:45 PM  
brute are really good & cheap. i care two every u joint on my truck. lifetime warr.

snoman was probably in air force. san antonio is known for the air force. but, could be wrong.

snoman do yor remember devils den (ingram trails) was out there today had so much fun

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09/25/2005 7:51 PM  
man that's on my wish list of thing's to do.hit the trail's you guy's are running.I watch alot of 4x4 tv on the dish.man!! that look's like fun.maybe in the future I could join you guy's in your part of the country.rock crawl'in look's awsum!!!

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09/26/2005 7:25 PM  
well having second thought's on the bogger's. from my earlyer post's you guy's got an idea of what i do for fun.other then the gumbo's mudder's .because they really suck on hardpack snowy road's. the reason i said that is because tere was afew time's i couldn't make it up this one windying road that go's up hill.In 4x too!!! because the two center tread's are sold.if you spin them they glaze the road,and your screwed. looking at the good old tsl's,baja claw's,and a few other's but these are my other two choises i'm interrested in.

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09/26/2005 7:27 PM  
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WHAT YEAR AGAIN WAS YOUR TRUCK? 84 CORRECT. 1ST DO YOU HAVE THE CORRECT AXLES FOR THOSE SHOES? 10 BOLTS WILL ONLY UP FOR SO LONG. THEY WILL BRAKE LIKE TWIGS. YES, YOU NEED TO GRIND DOWN THE CALIPERS THATS ON A D60 AXLE. NOT ON A TEN BOLT. GO W/ THE 15 RIM DUE, TO CHEAPER TIRES & STRONGER TIRE WALL 18 IF YOU THE BLING BLING FACTOR & BUSTING A TIRE BEAD FASTER.

IF YOU GO W/ THE 38 W/ THE D60 OR 10 BOLT YOU STILL NEED TO INSTALL HYDRO STEERING DUE TO YOU WILL BOIL YOUR STEERING FLUID. 4.56 WILL BE THE MIN. I WOULD GO W/ THE 4.88S. I DONT THINK THEY MAKE A GEAR IN 5.13 FOR A 10 BOLT. SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PRODJECT.


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09/26/2005 7:33 PM  
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Originally posted by SnoMan: I was a SAC guy and supportted the B52 that bomb Nam out of Guam they were rotated for my stateside base and a few others along with personal. WHen they got to "wormy"...


Hey, I spent 8 years in the AF myself. The first four years I worked on A-10's and F-16's. (Loaded bombs - GO 462's!!!, was CUT trained as a crew chief and so on)

Spent time in Louisiana (England AFB), a short stint in Guam, Germany, Spain, etc. Did a 7 month tour in Iraq / Saudi Arabia during the first Gulf War... Ended up in Tucson, AZ (DM AFB).

The next 4 years I worked as a field medic. Hoooah!



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09/26/2005 7:47 PM  
thank's for serving our contry,and I mean it.. I wish i would have made better choises in my yonger day's.what's done is done!Now i'm paying for it 15 year's later.that was one of my goal's earlyer in life that didn't get done.back then i was too busy trying to p!@@off everyone in my path.I guess it take's other people a lot longer to grow up. I'm a 100% behind you guy's on that.

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09/27/2005 12:35 AM  
Back to the tires...from experience(if you read one of my last postings) Super Swamper TSL/SX's, those are the most bad ass tires I ever did buy. They were 35x15.50x15. They took me everywhere, I really mean it. I went some places that my budy's built CJ7 couldn't go (that might be driver error though). I never knew you could take a 3/4t Chevy long bed so many places. With its low center of gravity I managed to never roll it. With the sidewall lugs you can crawl, and deep grooves you can mud. What else do you need. Gas milage?? I just made two 50gal tanks...that lasted about a week before it was time to refill(wheelin at night included). Forget the big rim bling bling, chrome don't get ya home, and stickers sure as heck don't make ya quicker...except for those little NOS ones....

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09/27/2005 4:08 AM  
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Originally posted by SnoMan: I was a SAC guy and supportted the B52 that bomb Nam out of Guam they were rotated for my stateside base and a few others along with personal. WHen they got to "wormy"...


Hey, I spent 8 years in the AF myself. The first four years I worked on A-10's and F-16's. (Loaded bombs - GO 462's!!!, was CUT trained as a crew chief and so on)

Spent time in Louisiana (England AFB), a short stint in Guam, Germany, Spain, etc. Did a 7 month tour in Iraq / Saudi Arabia during the first Gulf War... Ended up in Tucson, AZ (DM AFB).

The next 4 years I worked as a field medic. Hoooah!



Rick


I was working in R&D in the early 90's and at the base I was at it was a point of departure and return for overseas deployment of Aircraft during the first gulf war. I remember talking to some A10 crews that were passing through when returning home. They told me that after the first day or two when they saw a A10 targeting them, that they would abondon their vehicals and run. You know if it had not been for the first gulf war, the A10 would have be retired and replaced with a A16 (a modified F16) Pilot I talked to striaght out of the gulf did not like the concept because of the A10's armour and the tub for the pilot. After they digested the results of the first gulf war they decided against retiring the A10 as it saved their bacon in both gulf conflicts. It was born out of Nam experiance in the need for a well armed and amoured close ground support aircraft. Deadlest tank and armoured vehcial killer on wings except for maybe a 130 gunship.

As a further footnote, I worked on the prototype in the 80's for the missle detection system that was to be mounted in the tail cone of a A10. It remember it was pushing the envelope then with its highspeed optical heat scanner behing a optically perfect quart glass domed lense.

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09/27/2005 5:31 AM  
BOGGERS ARE GOOD NOT ONLY IN MUD BUT, YOU NEED TO SIPE YOUR OWN TREAD FOR THE ROCKS

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09/27/2005 11:33 AM  
I'm planning on 3 set's of tire's. 20x33x16 sand paddel's (rear) with a set of buck shot's 33x12.5x16 front.(wheels 16x8 front 16x12 center lines(all ready own) (need to buy) (mudbogg's) 38"'s or 39"'s w/m/t classic 2 bead locks (mud only) for(bogg's only) (sand) baja 35x12.5x16.5 (tires only)

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