webby4x4
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| 10/10/2005 7:13 PM |
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OK - Let's see how many off-road & 4-wheeling tips and tricks we can come up with.
We've got a small database of them at: http://www.4x4review.com/full-quotes.asp - but I'd like to see it grow!
Let us know what your tips and tricks are and we'll publish them.
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primetimek5
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| 10/10/2005 9:04 PM |
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i use very small metal wheel valve stem so that do sharp rocks or branches cut them off. the beadlock ring protects them also.
prepacked bearing, u joints in a vacume tight bag. if needed they are already
packed w/ grease makes a clean fix. (label them inner & outer & for
what axle)
carry a batt. jump box fully charged.
nut & bolt the suspension before & after every trip
sealed matches.
bug spray
hat
try to have two full size tire spairs even if balled (same size as others)
starter fluid to help start if you run out gas
starter fluid w/ a long piece of hose to spray from the inside to carb
to help get back to camp (5 cans)
high lifts are always your friend
xtra driveshaft u joints
xtra axle spairs (gear fluid)
flash lights for the late night runs
for several day camping trip use dry ice for your food. it last way longer
but, will keep them frozen.
dont use them w/ soda or beer cans.
always cary a cell phone w/ you even if it has no air time it will
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SnoMan
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| 10/11/2005 3:41 AM |
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| I guess I look at this from a engineers stand point of veiw. If your drive train is properly sized for what you are using it for, you do not need all the spare parts. Ujoints and axles fail because they are not up to load and driveshafts usually go south because someone is running tall gears with big rubber and depending on low range to help them out. Sure some things can get damaged anyway but if is it properly design for loads and tires size you will be able to leave the spare axle and joints behind which just aff more weight to haul around anyway. I would rather not break at all than have the parts to fix the break. Sure those extra part in a war chest can sound impressive but not needing them is even more impressive. It 30 years I have never broke one of road but it is not from lack of trying too. It all in the overall design. |
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primetimek5
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| 10/11/2005 6:06 AM |
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| so why at a ttc you see busted ujoint, drive shafts & axle shafts?
some of those trucks are over built but, still breaking.
wear & tear, heavy foot & just out right rocking also cause breaking.
xtream off camber situations all cause breakage.
it does not matter if you the best engineer, parts still break.
look at poison sprider, btf, waren, rancho & etcc... are pioneers & grandfathers of offroading in mud,sand,rock & desert racing & have the best
engineers & they are still breaking & they have a semi of parts to fix at the
comps.
so engineering does have a big toll in off roading BUT, you still need parts.
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primetimek5
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| 10/11/2005 6:08 AM |
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| by the way breaking & getting stuck is half the fun.
so if you dont do this your really not getting your blood pumping at least
once in a while. |
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webby4x4
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| 10/11/2005 7:55 AM |
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I'm on the fence on this one... one side of me says "overbuild so you can enjoy a day of wheeling and not wrenching. Save that for the garage"... BUT (Big BUT), it's not wheeling if you're not challenging you and your machine to it's limits. So it's the psychological dilemma of "Go big or go home" vs. "stay conservative". ;)
Any more tips? Keep 'em coming! |
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primetimek5
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| 10/11/2005 8:49 AM |
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DRIVE LIKE YOU STOLED IT, CHICKS DIG BODY DAMAGE,
THE POPO SAYS, SIR, DO YOU KNOW THAT VEHICALE IS NOT STREET LEGAL.
WHAT BODY DAMAGE? JUST TUBE IT. BRING OUT THE PLASMA.
YES MY TRUCK IS TRAILER QUEEN.
THOSE ARE MY SAYINGS.
SORRY I KNOW ITS OFF TOPIC.
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SnoMan
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| 10/11/2005 12:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by primetimek5
so why at a ttc you see busted ujoint, drive shafts & axle shafts?
some of those trucks are over built but, still breaking.
wear & tear, heavy foot & just out right rocking also cause breaking.
xtream off camber situations all cause breakage.
it does not matter if you the best engineer, parts still break.
look at poison sprider, btf, waren, rancho & etcc... are pioneers & grandfathers of offroading in mud,sand,rock & desert racing & have the best
engineers & they are still breaking & they have a semi of parts to fix at the
comps.
so engineering does have a big toll in off roading BUT, you still need parts.
Not true, if you design something to take all the load it can possible see in any senario, it will not break. Your built up trucks are not built up properly if they keep breaking plane and simple. I can take a 9 ton dozer (like I did this weekend) and push it all day long for all it is worth and it never breaks anything or overheat and it has 5600hrs on it too. (You should see the trees I took down roots and all) Not the same you say, not really because it is designed to take all the load than can possibly be put on it. Same with a backhoe a end loader or a farm tractor. If a custom biuld would take the time to calculate the stress and the yeild strength of parts they could avoid a lot of failures too. I have a 51 year JD tractor that still runs great and will still make all the power it can and get it to the ground and not break doing it. In a properly designed 4x4, your axles and drive shafts should be the last thing to fail though some engines use the driveshaft as a "fuse" of sorts and have it yeild because tranny or axle does. It is all about designing for the stresses. Most car part are not designed for maxium strength, they are a compromise between cost and strength. The best engieneers could design something not to break. I know I could and I am not the best engineer either. |
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primetimek5
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| 10/11/2005 2:01 PM |
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I HAD A 10BOLT FRONT END WELDED SPIDER GEARS, W/ 4.56 GEARS
I WHEELED THE PISS OUT OF IT & NEVER BROKE A SHAFT.
SINCE, IVE REPLACED 2 AXLE STUBS ON A D60 WHICH IS RUNNING 4.56
GEARS & WELDED.
THEY WERE RUNNING THE SAME 39.5 SWAMPERS.
EVERY RUN I TOLD MY SELF OK GONNA WHEEL HARDERTO BREAK THE 10BOLT.
A REASON TO GO W/ A 60K.
PUTTING A D60 IN A 10BOLT PLACE IS NOT HARD & DONT THINK YOU NEED TO A SCIENTIST TO DO IT. ANGEL SPRING PERCHES ARE GOOD & PINION ANGLE IS GOOD.
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primetimek5
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| 10/11/2005 2:08 PM |
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| you know every tread gets hijacked by another subject.
let do tips & tricks again. that might save us on a trail again. |
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SnoMan
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| 10/11/2005 4:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by primetimek5
I HAD A 10BOLT FRONT END WELDED SPIDER GEARS, W/ 4.56 GEARS
I WHEELED THE PISS OUT OF IT & NEVER BROKE A SHAFT.
SINCE, IVE REPLACED 2 AXLE STUBS ON A D60 WHICH IS RUNNING 4.56
GEARS & WELDED.
THEY WERE RUNNING THE SAME 39.5 SWAMPERS.
EVERY RUN I TOLD MY SELF OK GONNA WHEEL HARDERTO BREAK THE 10BOLT.
A REASON TO GO W/ A 60K.
PUTTING A D60 IN A 10BOLT PLACE IS NOT HARD & DONT THINK YOU NEED TO A SCIENTIST TO DO IT. ANGEL SPRING PERCHES ARE GOOD & PINION ANGLE IS GOOD.
I know this is a bit of a hyjack but try a frontaxle out of a 2003 or newer Dodge 4x4. That new AAM unit make a D60 look small aand have much bigger ball joints and assemblies. It should be about indestructable on a gas powered 4x4 (less weight up front) up to 38's or 40's even if you jump it some. Also I would NEVER weld spder gear in any axle let alone a front one. That is way your spindle stubs are breaking. On the 10 bolt the stock main axle are twisting up enough to cushoin the stubs to the severe torque load shift that you are geting as the axle rotates with Ujoint bent because it is not a constant velocity unit and it is speeding up and slowing down twise per revolution and the "spring" in the little 10 bolt axles it absorbing some of this. |
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webby4x4
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| 10/11/2005 6:42 PM |
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If there are anymore tips and tricks (regardless if it's "fix it" tips), I'd love to see them.
Thanks!
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Rick Webster
Editor, 4X4REVIEW.COM - A Tork Media, Inc. Publication
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| 10/12/2005 4:50 AM |
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| how about cig..lighter's mounted front ,and back for the guy's with spot light's.easy access for you midnight runner's.they are cheap,easy to install
and convenent! |
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Hay!! Can you get your dad's dozer? wwwwwwhaaaaaat?? |
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primetimek5
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| 10/15/2005 7:35 PM |
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| use sealed tractor lights as rock lights
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webby4x4
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| 11/10/2005 11:33 AM |
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Primetime - I'm going to publish some of your tips.
What name do you want associated with the tip? (e.g. First name, Last name, First initial and last name, or just "primetimeK5") |
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Rick Webster
Editor, 4X4REVIEW.COM - A Tork Media, Inc. Publication
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primetimek5
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| 11/10/2005 8:31 PM |
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rick pena or primetimek5 or all together like rickpenaprimetimek5 (justkidding)
primetimek5 or primetime or r.pena
ill let you pick.
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grumpydawg
Street Queen
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| 11/10/2005 9:52 PM |
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| never, never, never wheel alone(under line, high light, and bold print), always have another veichial(bad spelling) wheel with you, if one get's rolled over, crushed, end overed the cliff you have some help and maybe a ride home |
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when in doubt use duct tape |
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webby4x4
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| 11/11/2005 6:45 PM |
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Thanks folks! I posted tips from GrumpyDawg, Primetime and WideOpen. They'll show up on every page, but you can see the entire listing at: http://www.4x4review.com/full-quotes.asp
Thanks!
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Rick Webster
Editor, 4X4REVIEW.COM - A Tork Media, Inc. Publication
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primetimek5
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| 11/12/2005 4:31 PM |
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| gosh, you gonna make me cry. |
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webby4x4
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| 11/12/2005 9:07 PM |
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| oh brutha [)] |
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Rick Webster
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grumpydawg
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| 11/25/2005 7:59 PM |
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| slightly off topic but still a safty tip....
don't stand on the top step of a step ladder(you know, the one with the big, pretty sticker that says don't stand here<or it should say "keep your fat a$$ off>) and think you need to go up another step while trying to get the christmas tree out of the rafters in the garage! |
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when in doubt use duct tape |
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sublmnl1990
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| 11/25/2005 8:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by grumpydawg
slightly off topic but still a safty tip....
don't stand on the top step of a step ladder(you know, the one with the big, pretty sticker that says don't stand here<or it should say "keep your fat a$$ off>) and think you need to go up another step while trying to get the christmas tree out of the rafters in the garage!
I feel another Homer was pulled
but I will add to it. Dont sit the hammer on top of the ladder when your hangin the outside lights the decide to move the ladder.
DOH!!! Doh!! doh!!!dOH!!! |
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You know it's going to be a good day when you get the milk to cereal ratio correct on the first bowl. |
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webby4x4
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| 11/25/2005 8:53 PM |
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When standing on that same aluminum ladder, don't ever, EVER use a pair of side cutters to cut 220 volt conduit, without checking to make sure the breaker is turned off. That junk will curl your hair!
While we're on the same thought... don't ever drink a large Capucciono and have a bran muffin before you get on the Golden Gate bridge during rush-hour traffic. THAT sucks! |
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sublmnl1990
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| 11/26/2005 6:44 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by webby4x4
OK - Let's see how many off-road & 4-wheeling tips and tricks we can come up with.
We've got a small database of them at: http://www.4x4review.com/full-quotes.asp - but I'd like to see it grow!
Let us know what your tips and tricks are and we'll publish them.
Rick
two very simple tips
1-If you are working on anything electrical especially with a computer controled vehicle ALWAYS disconnect the battery.
2-I believe if you ever need to crawl under the truck to work on it you should ALWAYS use wheel chocks.
If your anything like me sometimes you go out side with just the intension of looking at something and the next thing you know your pullin parts, thats when the simple mistakes can happen
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You know it's going to be a good day when you get the milk to cereal ratio correct on the first bowl. |
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grumpydawg
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| 11/26/2005 5:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by grumpydawg
slightly off topic but still a safty tip....
don't stand on the top step of a step ladder(you know, the one with the big, pretty sticker that says don't stand here<or it should say "keep your fat a$$ off>) and think you need to go up another step while trying to get the christmas tree out of the rafters in the garage!
well i didn't fall but i think (what??, me think??) that it prolbly looked pretty damned funny, a short, fat, dumb, old s.o.b. standing on one foot waving the other while standing on the top of the step ladder |
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when in doubt use duct tape |
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ChevyMan0784
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| 09/28/2006 10:50 PM |
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| I usually keep a few U-Joints and neccessary tools when I go wheeling. A C-clamp, an appropriate sized deep socket, some C-clip pliers, and a flathead screw driver, and a grease gun usually do the job. You never think about em till they grenade! |
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gimmie fuel gimmie fire gimmie that which I desire-James Hetfield
*Never give an Irish man good cause for revenge.
*Guns dont kill people, but they sure help!!
*98% OF AMERICANS SAY 'OH S**t' BEFORE GOING IN THE DITCH ON A ICEY ROAD.
THE OTHER 2% ARE FROM ALASKA, AND THEY SAY, 'HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS |
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primetimek5
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| 09/29/2006 12:10 PM |
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| sorry, if anybody gets mad but,
dont order parts(custom wheels) from daniel (usa6x6)
3 months & counting for 20x10 double beadlock wheels w/ rockwell pattern |
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