reddragon
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| 02/25/2008 10:03 PM |
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| I have a 86 k-5 blazer that wi |
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webby4x4
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| 02/26/2008 8:51 AM |
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It sounds like the linkage has become disconnected from the transfer case. Check to make sure that when the lever is moved, that the linkage is moving on the transfer case.
If it is, then it could be somethign as simple as a blown hub, or something more complex.
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reddragon
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| 02/26/2008 8:55 AM |
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| I will take a look at the linkage. It has automatic hubs. |
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reddragon
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| 02/27/2008 2:01 PM |
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| I took a look at the linkage and its connected to the transfer case and is moving fine. I took the plug out of the front differential and their was no fluid in it at all. All their was was goo. is their any way to save it with out a big cost? what do you think can be the problem? |
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reddragon
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| 02/27/2008 3:13 PM |
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| How would i be able to tell if it has a blown hub? I have never worked on hubs before. |
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webby4x4
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| 02/27/2008 6:59 PM |
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That's easy!
Just put your truck in 4-wheel drive by pushing on the lever (you might need to be rolling for it to engage). Then put your truck in park and kill the engine (with it still in 4-wheel drive).
Jack up the front of your truck so that only one of your front tires is in the air. Then, spin that tire forward and look at the axle shaft to see if it's spinning. Repeat on the other side as well...
If the axle shaft doesn't spin, then your hub(s) is shot.
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reddragon
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| 02/27/2008 7:16 PM |
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| I will give that a try in the morning. The front diff. was empty. The blazer has 60000 original miles. |
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webby4x4
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| 02/27/2008 7:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by reddragon
The front diff. was empty.
That's not good! |
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reddragon
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| 02/27/2008 7:35 PM |
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| Yea i know i have a quart of 80W90 to put in after i clean the diff.
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webby4x4
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| 02/27/2008 7:38 PM |
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At least it was the front diff, and not the rear. Check to make sure that you don't have a rust line inside the differential area too. If you do, you'll have to scrub / sand that out.
I might also suggest that you use a few cans of brake parts cleaner and really clean the heck out of it before you put oil back in.
Best of luck!
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reddragon
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| 02/28/2008 9:11 AM |
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| To my finding their was some oil in their it was really thick almost like goo. I cleaned it out with brake parts cleaner and put in new oil. I put it into 4wheel drive and jacked up one side and the drive shaft doesn't spin. Would it be better to change it to manual hubs or try to find the parts to keep the auto hubs that it has? Could it be the 4wd actuator thats gone bad? |
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webby4x4
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| 03/01/2008 6:32 PM |
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You won't see the "driveshaft" spin, Reddragon, as the hubs won't be engaged at this point. You're looking to see if the axle shaft is spinning. Look near the back of the tire, on the axle tube, you'll see a big opening and inside it is a u-joint. Spin the tire and see if the axle shaft is spinning.
Anyhow, I always recommend going to a manual hub, as there is a lot less to go wrong wiht them and they are a lot more durable. Look at Warn or MileMarker hubs, as they both make good units that are affordable.
If you don't do a lot of off-roading, then just get Warn standard hubs (not the premiums), unless money isn't a problem.
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reddragon
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| 03/04/2008 5:32 PM |
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| Ok i will take a look at that when i get a chance. Is their a 4wd actuator? Could that be bad? |
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webby4x4
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| 03/04/2008 8:03 PM |
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Yup, your hands! :)
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sammy 87
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| 03/05/2008 10:46 PM |
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| first of all if the driveshaft dont spin in 4wd there is somthing wrong in the tcase like the chain being broken auto hubs shouldnt be bad unless u have just romped the hell out of it and you can also trick the auto hubs the only thing that unlocks them is a spring take the sping out and they will stay locked to tell you their not busted the only way i know this is due to loosing a spring and having to take the other out to have 4wd |
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sammy 87
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| 03/05/2008 10:52 PM |
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the front drive shaft engages the hubs when the hubs get the front driveshafts power they kick in because when u unlock the hub and are outta 4wd the drive shaft doesnt spin nor do the axles shafts cause then the hubs are unlocked and in "free wheeling"
oh redragon you dont have actuators they didnt come into the pic until IFS and that style suburban and blazer didnt go to ifs suburbans went to ifs later than the pickups i think the last straight axle year on burbs and blazers were 91 or 92 |
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sammy 87
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| 03/05/2008 10:59 PM |
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| and one last thing dont buy Mile Marker unless you like chinease products i havent heard much good about Mile Marker yet but as for warn hands down the premiums are the way to go |
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reddragon
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| 03/06/2008 10:07 AM |
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| The hubs are auto locking. I had an 87 chevy s10 blazer and that had a 4wd actuator on it. It use to be a plow truck. The axle shaft does spin. Its a 208 series T-case. The part store that i go to has a 4wd actuator for the blazer. |
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sammy 87
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| 03/06/2008 7:58 PM |
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| i was talking about the K-5 fullsize yes the s10s never had a straight axle unless someone put on in the place of ifs some guys that work at parts stores dont kno the difference you dont have an actuator and the only reason the s10 has an actuator it acts as the hub and is a pain in the @ss be glad you have a straight axle and hubs so much more reliable |
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reddragon
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| 03/13/2008 10:19 PM |
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| can i get a list of what might be wrong with the 4x4 not working? i have ran out of ideas on what it might be. gould the chain in the t-case have broken??? if so how would i know/ find out? |
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sammy 87
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| 03/15/2008 4:31 PM |
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| you cant really find out unless you break the seal and open the case.
because the onlt thing i can think of in your probs the chain is BROKEN |
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reddragon
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| 03/15/2008 8:38 PM |
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| would it be better to get a new t-case then or would it be better to get it fixed? |
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sammy 87
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| 03/16/2008 6:05 PM |
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| it depends on if you can find a new chain um a junk yard should have an 80's chevy with a 208 and aught to be resonalbe on the price i would think. |
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reddragon
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| 03/17/2008 11:04 PM |
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| ok. last night when i was at work i was going around a turn and i heard a snapping noise then it would go away. it only happens when i turn. what could that be? |
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webby4x4
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| 03/18/2008 6:15 PM |
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Your fingers keeping beat with the music? :)
Where is the noise coming from? Can you feel the noise in the seat of your pants or through the steering wheel? If so, where is it more noticable? Is it a high-pitched snapping noise, or more of a popping sound?
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reddragon
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| 03/20/2008 11:30 AM |
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| its coming from the front left of my truck its like a snapping sound.like when you snap a spring to metal sound. |
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reddragon
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| 03/20/2008 5:27 PM |
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| when i put it into 4Lo it feels like its working. |
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webby4x4
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| 03/20/2008 7:54 PM |
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You might take a peek at your front u-joint. I'll bet that it's worn out and clicking around inside there.
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reddragon
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| 03/24/2008 10:47 PM |
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| ok i will take a look at it |
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reddragon
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| 04/08/2008 9:50 PM |
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| the noise is gone. |
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| 04/08/2008 9:52 PM |
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| did it just go away by itself? |
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reddragon
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| 04/10/2008 6:16 PM |
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| yea its been bad here so i havent had time to look. |
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reddragon
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| 04/20/2008 7:43 PM |
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| does anyone know where i can find a NP 208 T-case? |
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webby4x4
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| 04/21/2008 7:17 AM |
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The 208 was used in full sized Cherokees from 1980-1983 and in Jeep trucks from 1980 to 1987.
I'd hit the local salvage yards and see if you can find one. Most salvage yards pull these from the vehicles and rack them up too, so you won't have to lay in the mud to pull it. ;)
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reddragon
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| 04/22/2008 11:23 AM |
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| how reliable would they be. |
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webby4x4
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| 04/22/2008 6:08 PM |
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They're fairly reliable, if you're not running a hot motor or have big tires and deep gearing.
If you're going to go throught he hassles of converting your t-case, you may want to consider something like a D300.
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sammy 87
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| 04/23/2008 9:06 PM |
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x2 on the dana 300 but rick w i seen that the 208 was driver side drop in the full size jeeps he needs pass side drop.
look at dodge 1/2 tons 84 and up and also chevy trucks with out indepndant front suspention. the older 3/4 one tons might have a 205 and 203 but some came with 208s. its a fairly good tcase. |
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reddragon
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| 04/25/2008 1:16 PM |
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| i know the NP205's were stronger. would it be better to change it to the NP205 |
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