4Hobbes
Bone Stock
Posts:18
 |
| 06/02/2008 12:14 PM |
|
Hi:
I have a 92 Jeep Cherokee that has really never given me to many problems and has been a pretty good Jeep. Last week I started hearing a clicking/popping noise coming out of 1st going into 2nd but it doesn't all the time and it doesn't happen when shifting into other gears. I couldn't make up my mind if it was something with the transmission or just because the Jeep is 16 years old. We took it into the local Goodyear to have the oil changed and a general maintenance package done kind of hoping that this might clear the sound. Well the guy that was doing the maintenance mentioned the popping noise, drove the Jeep around the parking lot and stated that the noise was the because the differential was going out and needed to be serviced/replaced. He also mentioned that it had never had any maintenance performed on it, my Dad has worked on cars all his life and did the tune ups so I know that this guy is wrong.
Does this sound like I am looking at some major repairs or is this repair guy just off and doesn't know what he is talking about.
thx,
4Hobbes |
|
|
|
|
ChevyMan0784
Lift & Lockers
Posts:699
|
| 06/02/2008 1:26 PM |
|
| If I were you, I would start with the smaller thing first. Like U-Joints. Those are fairly inexpensive to buy. What you want to do to check them first though, would be to put the Jeep in park. Then crawl under it (doesnt have to be running.) Grab the rear drive shaft and try to rotate it both directions. If it moves siginificantley, look at either end and see what is allowing it to move. If the driveshaft moves on the yoke at either end, then its probably that making the clunk. Then you would just replace the ujoints. If it is at the diff side, and it is rocking inside the pinion, you may have to have your diff serviced. I hope that helps some. Its a good place to START. It may not be the answer though. Good luck. |
|
gimmie fuel gimmie fire gimmie that which I desire-James Hetfield
*Never give an Irish man good cause for revenge.
*Guns dont kill people, but they sure help!!
*98% OF AMERICANS SAY 'OH S**t' BEFORE GOING IN THE DITCH ON A ICEY ROAD.
THE OTHER 2% ARE FROM ALASKA, AND THEY SAY, 'HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS |
|
|
4Hobbes
Bone Stock
Posts:18
|
| 06/04/2008 2:11 PM |
|
Question, would all of this add a humming noise to my Jeep? I had heard some extra noise coming from the back but just thought that it was coming from the muffler or something. After Goodyear did their 2 bits to my Jeep, every time I get on the highway (which is not often) there is this kind of loud humming noise. It doesn't do it if I'm on city streets or in slower traffic. Goodyear had mentioned that they had adjusted the air pressure in my tires and I thought it could be because of this.
What is your take on this and thank you so much for your suggestion about the U-joints. |
|
|
|
|
yoda
Bone Stock
Posts:0
|
| 06/04/2008 10:06 PM |
|
| I would agree with Chevyman, check the rear driveshaft first and then I would drain the rear end and pull the diff cover and check for yourself. With the cover off you can jack up the rear tires and have someone rotate the tires and the driveshaft and check for play in the ring and pinion and spider gears. If you can have some one hold the driveshaft while you ratchet a tire back and forth to see if you get any clucking or noises. If nothing else you'll get a look inside the diff, fill it with fresh fluid and decide what to do from there. Hope this helps. |
|
|
|
|
ChevyMan0784
Lift & Lockers
Posts:699
|
| 06/04/2008 11:02 PM |
|
| Thats deffinately a good way to go. Nothing to loose, except old oil. Also, what type or brand of tires are you running?? |
|
gimmie fuel gimmie fire gimmie that which I desire-James Hetfield
*Never give an Irish man good cause for revenge.
*Guns dont kill people, but they sure help!!
*98% OF AMERICANS SAY 'OH S**t' BEFORE GOING IN THE DITCH ON A ICEY ROAD.
THE OTHER 2% ARE FROM ALASKA, AND THEY SAY, 'HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS |
|
|
4Hobbes
Bone Stock
Posts:18
|
| 06/05/2008 8:59 AM |
|
| I am running a set of Goodyear Wranglers. They did state that would need to replace two of them soon because they have bumps on the outside. |
|
|
|
|
ChevyMan0784
Lift & Lockers
Posts:699
|
| 06/05/2008 10:10 PM |
|
| Yea, that would deffinatly cause road noise for sure. Any mud terrain will cause a buzzing noise, especially at higher speeds. Mechanics are notorious for trying to make money the easy way, lol. So it is good to question everything. But try replacing the tires (if need be) and check them joints. |
|
gimmie fuel gimmie fire gimmie that which I desire-James Hetfield
*Never give an Irish man good cause for revenge.
*Guns dont kill people, but they sure help!!
*98% OF AMERICANS SAY 'OH S**t' BEFORE GOING IN THE DITCH ON A ICEY ROAD.
THE OTHER 2% ARE FROM ALASKA, AND THEY SAY, 'HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS |
|
|
4Hobbes
Bone Stock
Posts:18
|
| 07/08/2008 7:44 PM |
|
| Actually we took it in and had someone else look at it, more or less just to do the maintenance on it. Would you believe that just doing the maintenance on it took care of the problem, no more popping noise.
Thanks for the help. |
|
|
|
|
webby4x4
Forum Admin, Magazine Editor
Rock Star
Posts:2375
|
| 07/08/2008 8:53 PM |
|
| Wow! Every once in a while, something comes together nicely! :) |
|
Rick Webster
Editor, 4X4REVIEW.COM - A Tork Media, Inc. Publication
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
'74 FJ40 Land Cruiser
"Measure once, cut twice" |
|
|
4Hobbes
Bone Stock
Posts:18
|
| 08/21/2008 10:40 AM |
|
Update:
There is a slight possibilty that the problem may be coming back. If I need to replace the differential, is this a job that I could do myself?
Thx,
4hobbes |
|
|
|
|
webby4x4
Forum Admin, Magazine Editor
Rock Star
Posts:2375
|
| 08/21/2008 9:09 PM |
|
Replacing the entire axle is actually easier than changing the differential. Changing the differential requires a special set of dial-guages, a press and more, because you have to reset the ring and pinion gears. If you've never done ring and pinion gears, doing them when you HAVE to, is not the time to learn.
At least that's my opinion.
But... if you're a really adventurous guy, you can certainly give it a shot. :)
Rick
|
|
Rick Webster
Editor, 4X4REVIEW.COM - A Tork Media, Inc. Publication
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
'74 FJ40 Land Cruiser
"Measure once, cut twice" |
|
|
4Hobbes
Bone Stock
Posts:18
|
| 10/07/2008 5:46 PM |
|
| If not fixed would this cause the Jeep to loose power? Over the last few days it's been getting harder to start. I got home and just by chance decided to try it out to see if I could re-start it. The first 2 times yes and now it's not even turning over.
Am I totally dead in the water or is there still hope? |
|
|
|
|
ChevyMan0784
Lift & Lockers
Posts:699
|
| 10/07/2008 9:34 PM |
|
| Ok... No, the rear differential will not cause your rig to not start or loose power. But, when maintainence was done, there is always the possiblity that a connection on the battery or alternator could be loose. Check the condition and tightness of your battery cables. Check the wires connecting to the alternator. If all of that is good. I would try charging the battery ( you can buy decent battery chargers at WalMart even). If you do that and it starts after a good charge, but then slowly dies out after awhile, your alternator may be bad. It is easy enough to remove the alternator and take it to a parts store and have it tested. If it is bad, replace it and give the battery a good long charge. |
|
gimmie fuel gimmie fire gimmie that which I desire-James Hetfield
*Never give an Irish man good cause for revenge.
*Guns dont kill people, but they sure help!!
*98% OF AMERICANS SAY 'OH S**t' BEFORE GOING IN THE DITCH ON A ICEY ROAD.
THE OTHER 2% ARE FROM ALASKA, AND THEY SAY, 'HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS |
|
|
4Hobbes
Bone Stock
Posts:18
|
| 10/09/2008 12:33 PM |
|
| It's my starter and it will be replaced this weekend. My new neighbor loves working on cars, I think I've hit pay dirt. Hopefully he'll be able to help with the other issue. |
|
|
|
|
webby4x4
Forum Admin, Magazine Editor
Rock Star
Posts:2375
|
| 10/09/2008 9:30 PM |
|
| Sounds like you did hit paydirt! Most guys are suckers for a pretty lady and if you throw a Jeep into the mix, well... it's just magical. [:D] |
|
Rick Webster
Editor, 4X4REVIEW.COM - A Tork Media, Inc. Publication
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
'74 FJ40 Land Cruiser
"Measure once, cut twice" |
|
|
ChevyMan0784
Lift & Lockers
Posts:699
|
| 10/10/2008 12:07 AM |
|
| Hahaha, yep yep... I dunno bout the Jeep thing though.... I got it once, now it burns when I pee.... Should I see a Dr?? I mean... uh, yea.... nevermind.... lol. Good job on finding some one to help ya out. Sometimes online help can only take ya so far... |
|
gimmie fuel gimmie fire gimmie that which I desire-James Hetfield
*Never give an Irish man good cause for revenge.
*Guns dont kill people, but they sure help!!
*98% OF AMERICANS SAY 'OH S**t' BEFORE GOING IN THE DITCH ON A ICEY ROAD.
THE OTHER 2% ARE FROM ALASKA, AND THEY SAY, 'HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS |
|
|
webby4x4
Forum Admin, Magazine Editor
Rock Star
Posts:2375
|
| 10/11/2008 1:48 PM |
|
4Hobbes - now don't go leaving us just because you found "another man". :)
Rick |
|
Rick Webster
Editor, 4X4REVIEW.COM - A Tork Media, Inc. Publication
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
'74 FJ40 Land Cruiser
"Measure once, cut twice" |
|
|
4Hobbes
Bone Stock
Posts:18
|
| 11/01/2008 4:23 PM |
|
Heck no I'm not going anywhere. Y'all are too much of a vital source of information to throw y'all over for the guy next door, lol! I know where the sweet side of the street is....
Question, if I have minor corrosion on one of my battery terminals should I go ahead and remove it even though it's not causing any problems?
Also I would like to clean my engine but my fuse box has a loose top, should I try and tape it down to make sure that any water does not get in it or is it fine the way it is?
Thx,
Hobbes |
|
|
|
|
webby4x4
Forum Admin, Magazine Editor
Rock Star
Posts:2375
|
| 11/01/2008 4:36 PM |
|
 We're glad you're stickin' around then!
Battery Answer - Yup, you can clean it, and you should clean it. There are a couple of things you can do:
- remove the wire going to the terminal and use a battery post cleaner. It's a funny looking tool you can get from your local autoparts store that is used to scrub away the acidic corrosion.
- Clean the terminals well. I take about 2 cups of warm water, and pour in two tablespoons of baking soda and mix well. Then pour it onto each terminal and let it set for a few minutes. The basic (opposite of acidic) structure of baking soda dissolves and neutralizes the acids on the terminals. Wipe clean.
- Superglue a penny next to each battery terminal. This will force the corrsion to the copper in the penny, instead of the lead terminal, thereby keeping the corrosion away from the eletrical connection, making life better for everyone.
 I've done this for years and it works like a champ.
- Don't bother with the green and red flet pads that you can get from the parts store. They don't work that well, and they're more expensive than 2 pennies.
Hope that helps!
Rick |
|
Rick Webster
Editor, 4X4REVIEW.COM - A Tork Media, Inc. Publication
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
'74 FJ40 Land Cruiser
"Measure once, cut twice" |
|
|
webby4x4
Forum Admin, Magazine Editor
Rock Star
Posts:2375
|
| 11/01/2008 4:39 PM |
|
Ooops. I forgot to reply to the engine question.
You can clean your engine, but here are a few tips:
- Don't use a power washer or high-pressure water. That will do all sorts of bad / naughty things to your engine
- Tape down your fuse box. If possible, put a plastic bag over it to keep water from getting inside. It's ok if it gets a little wet, but don't drench it
- Don't use heavy-duty engine degreaser. It will break apart critical engine seals / gaskets and your engine may start leaking fluids more than it does today
When I wash an engine, I use mild soap and a rag to clean things up. I don't spray water anywhere near the distributor or near the air intake, or near electrical components. Typically it's ok for things to get wet, but you don't want them seaking wet - know what I mean?
Rick |
|
Rick Webster
Editor, 4X4REVIEW.COM - A Tork Media, Inc. Publication
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
'74 FJ40 Land Cruiser
"Measure once, cut twice" |
|
|
4Hobbes
Bone Stock
Posts:18
|
| 11/02/2008 10:40 AM |
|
| Ok so what would you consider a mild soap? To me the mildest soap would be Ivory, I think they sell that as a dish soap or hand soap. I guess since you recommending not to use a de-greaser that I shouldn't use a dish soap right? |
|
|
|
|
4Hobbes
Bone Stock
Posts:18
|
| 11/02/2008 10:40 AM |
|
| Ok so what would you consider a mild soap? To me the mildest soap would be Ivory, I think they sell that as a dish soap or hand soap. I guess since you recommending not to use a de-greaser that I shouldn't use a dish soap right? |
|
|
|
|
webby4x4
Forum Admin, Magazine Editor
Rock Star
Posts:2375
|
| 11/02/2008 11:47 AM |
|
Dish soap would be fine, just don't use a ton of it. 
Engine degreaser is really harsh and is great to use if you're rebuilding an engine. I suppose you could rub Ivory soap all over it though.  [just kidding].
Rick |
|
Rick Webster
Editor, 4X4REVIEW.COM - A Tork Media, Inc. Publication
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
'74 FJ40 Land Cruiser
"Measure once, cut twice" |
|
|