jeepyj
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| 02/17/2008 6:16 PM |
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| i am thinkin about buying a co |
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webby4x4
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| 02/17/2008 8:16 PM |
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Yes, they're goint to be quite a bit wider. But, as you mentioned, they can be cut down to the appropriate width, or the width that you choose (If you want to go wider than stock).
To cut them down, take them to a reputable 4X4 shop, or a reputable axle shop. If you've never done this before, don't bother. There's lots to screw up when doing this. I'm not trying to talk you out of doing this, as I prefer to do just about everything on my own, but this requires a whole slew of specialized tools to do it right.
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jeepyj
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| 02/18/2008 9:49 AM |
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| okay got another question then how would i know what the new axle length is goin to be and where could i order them? |
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primetimek5
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| 02/18/2008 11:49 AM |
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| yj, im doing that build now. but w/ rockwells. i would stay w/ the full size axles. it will be alot more stable & lot less monies to spend.
just pick a good offset wheel to help you w/ the with.
thats my .2cents. |
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webby4x4
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| 02/18/2008 5:23 PM |
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The big question is "can" he run full width axles. Most states have limitations as to how far the tire can (or cannot) stick out from the side of the fender... That may be a limiting factor here, if it's a street-legal machine. If not... got as wide as your trails will allow you to go - like Rick P says.
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jeepyj
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| 02/18/2008 7:36 PM |
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| if i am to keep the same width and convert the 14b to disc what backspacing should i run.....and does anyone know what the law for tire exposure in virginia is? |
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webby4x4
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| 02/18/2008 9:51 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jeepyj
if i am to keep the same width and convert the 14b to disc what backspacing should i run.....
The same width as what? The same width as a full width 14 bolt, or the same width as your Jeep?
quote:
Originally posted by jeepyj
and does anyone know what the law for tire exposure in virginia is?
Nope, but you can probably check out their DOT / DMV web site for details.
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jeepyj
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| 02/19/2008 9:13 AM |
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| if i keep the 14b at full width.... |
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primetimek5
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| 02/19/2008 12:00 PM |
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thats all up to you. you need to messure(sp) how much you want the wheel to stick in or out. i see lost of people go w/ that same set up use a more of
bigger back spacing for the front. it gives it a even pattern.
i would not go that set up unless if i wanna carry 2 spares. thats equels more money & more space it would taking up in your rig. |
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jeepyj
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| 02/19/2008 5:44 PM |
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| i am goin to keep the spring over on the 14b what should i do about axle wrap? |
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primetimek5
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| 02/19/2008 7:56 PM |
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if you going w/ the spring over get one w/ a military rap ends that would help you. you can take off the second or third leaf & add one from a one ton to help. i have mixed leaf packs w/ one tons & it cured the problem.
we all our running 350 eng & bigger displacement tho.
if you running the stock 4 or 6 cyl. i really dont see a problem. buy using the
xj springs.(military wraped oem) |
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webby4x4
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| 02/19/2008 8:19 PM |
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Sams Off Road also sells an anti-wrap / traction bar that works pretty well, so that you can run soft, flexible leaves. We did a review of this and you can see it at: http://www.4x4review.com/products/suspension/traction-bar.asp
Hope that helps.
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jeepyj
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| 02/20/2008 9:52 AM |
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| another thing i am conserned about is the steering.... not so much as the linkage but will the stock gear bock with a pump on a 350 have enough ass to turn 37 12.50s? |
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primetimek5
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| 02/20/2008 1:54 PM |
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| yes but go w/ assist. |
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jeepyj
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| 02/20/2008 7:04 PM |
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| the only problem with the assist is that i don't know if that is street legal in virgina |
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webby4x4
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| 02/21/2008 5:26 PM |
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37's will be a strain for a stock gear box. If you can't go with hydro-assist (I'm pretty sure you can, and even if you can't, nobody would really know anyhow), then give PSC Steering a call. Talk to Tom (the owner), and tell him Rick Webster from 4X4REVIEW.COM sent you... tell him what you need, and he can get you a box and pump that will quite easily turn those big meats!
We've tested a number of different steering setups, and hands-down, PSC has the finest stuff on the market, and at pretty reasonable prices.
PSC Motorsports
11468 FM 730 South
Azle Texas 76020
Phone: 817-270-0102
http://www.pscmotorsports.com/
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primetimek5
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| 02/22/2008 5:33 AM |
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| i agree w/ rick. psc is top notch. |
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jeepyj
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| 02/26/2008 3:34 PM |
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| i got the axles today and the front has been shortin to the same width as the rear......good for me right haha ....i was lookin at the discs in the front and wonderin if the conversion kits will have the same rotors but with ebrake and if the pads will be the same? and i was wonderin about the brake lines i don't know off the top of my head the size of the wrangler threads but what do i do if they aint the same? |
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webby4x4
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| 02/27/2008 7:25 PM |
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Most of the ebrake conversions use either Ford Explorer discs (with internal disc/drum shoes for the ebrake), or they use Cadillac discs. Others are custom... it really depends on which conversion kit you use.
As far as the brake lines go, I couldn't answer either way. *Most* are standard size, but there are some odd-ball sizes out there... again, it depends upon the conversion that you use. Most reputable conversion systems can offer brake lines with varying sizes on the ends.
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jeepyj
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| 02/29/2008 6:18 PM |
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| does anyone know where to find parts for the 14 bolt and dana 60 chevy 1 ton axles? replacement or performance (lockers etc) other than the dealer |
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primetimek5
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| 02/29/2008 7:33 PM |
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| there all over the internet.
look for a 4x4 forum around you city or state to find some killer deals on used
& new parts to save some money. ebay & craigs list help. |
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webby4x4
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| 03/01/2008 6:09 PM |
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Try Randy's Ring and Pinion (http://www.ring-pinion.com). I've known Randy for years, and he's always sent top-notch stuff, and at good prices. They have axle shafts, gears, gear sets, installation sets, lockers, entire housings, etc.
Great folks there!
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Rick Webster
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