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Steven Lamar Harris
Bone Stock
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| 08/24/2008 11:32 AM |
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| Hello all, I have a 93 Wrangler yj very stock, 4 cylinder. Will use it only to go up and down fairly steep hill from cabin to river. Hill can be walked even by this 56 year old man. I want to easily traverse hill. I want larger tires, 31 or 32 inch. Do I get a suspension lift of 2 inches, a body lift, and do I need to disconnect the sway bar in front or back? What type tires, AT or m/t? (not sure where to find them) Thanks for ya'll's expertise and advise.
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jeepyj
Bone Stock
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| 08/25/2008 6:36 PM |
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| i have a 93 too with the 4 cyl and i have a 4 inch suspension with 33 and am very impressed with the ability of the jeep with just the lift....the only downside is that it don't have much power unless in 4 low....do you have the manual? i do and never use 5th so i would imagine that the auto would have less power |
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webby4x4
Forum Admin, Magazine Editor
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| 08/25/2008 7:58 PM |
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Hi Steven - first off, welcome to the forums!
It sounds like you're taking the right approach here, in that you're asking the right quesitons, vs. just going out and spending a bunch of unecessary money.
I'm going to make a few assumptions here:
1) You'd prefer to stay on a cost-effective budget
2) You don't want to create a Jeep that loses some of it's on-road handling
3) The hill that you mentioned isn't replete with deep ruts, large boulders or steep off-camber situations
Accordingly, I would suggest that you stick with a 2-3" body lift (this way you will still have your stock suspension ride feel), and go with 32" or 33" tires. A suspension lift will add cost to the project, and will likely make the ride stiffer and less compliant (at least at first).
If you're limiting your off-road adventures primarily to that hill that you discussed, I would even mess with the track bar or the sway bar. However, if you do feel that you need a bit more articulation up front, I would go after a set of JKS QuickER disconnects (the new version is pretty sweet). - http://store.jksmfg.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=QRDISC&Store_Code=JKS01&Category_Code=Swaybar_Disconnects
I wouldn't mess with the rear track bar, that will just make things worse for you.
As far as tires goes, I have a couple of questions for you:
1) How much on-road driving will you be doing?
2) How nasty is that hill of yours (the surface conditions)
3) Any other off-roading that you'll be doing?
Hope this helps,
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Rick Webster
Editor, 4X4REVIEW.COM - A Tork Media, Inc. Publication
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Steven Lamar Harris
Bone Stock
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| 08/25/2008 11:33 PM |
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| Thanks for the replies Jeepyj, and Webby4x4,
First of all it is a manual trans., and in low gears it does well.
Webby, you must have seen my land, and must know me. While cost is always a factor, I want to do it right. The yj will not be on the interstate much, but will still go to town on the weekends. The hill is smooth, in a forested environment with leaves and typical forest floor. No rock crawling here. If I go for 33 in. tires, does that require a 2 or 3 inch lift? While I have no plans for any further off roading, I can imagine that this hobby can be addictive.
Lastly, I meant it when I called myself a newbie. While I know what the front sway bar is and what it is for, I have no idea of what a track bar is or what it does. I read articles on this site and others and I quickly get lost on the jargon and keep going to Wikipedia for help. Thanks for the replies and guidance.
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webby4x4
Forum Admin, Magazine Editor
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| 08/28/2008 9:44 PM |
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Hi Steve - Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.
It will take about 3" of lift to clear 33" tires. You can go with a 1.5" lift and a 2" body lift, or a 3" body lift, or a 3" suspension lift - your call. 3" of body lift is about the maximum you should run - personally, I wouldn't do more than 2", but that's me.
Yup... this hobby is VERY, VERY addictive! [:D] Once you realize what a capable vehicle can do, you'll wnat to keep doing more. Which, however, will require further modifications. It's a vicious cycle. ;)
Now that I've got a better description of the hill, I might suggest a good set of all-terrain tires, like the BFGoodrich all terrain, the Bridgestone Dueler AT's, etc. You might take a peek at some of our tire reviews at: http://www.4x4review.com/products/tires - there are several all-terrain tire reviews you can read through. I suggest all-terrains as they should give you the traction you need, yet be quiet enough and well mannered enough to take it into town as well.
The track bar... The rear track bar is primarily put in place on the YJ to keep the rear axle from swinging side-to-side. The YJ in particular should keep the track bar in place. Without it, the Jeep will handle pretty squirrley on the road.
Hope that helps!
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jeepyj
Bone Stock
Posts:32
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| 09/02/2008 3:08 PM |
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| i agree i wouldn't go over a 2" body and i would put a 2" suspension for 33s.....i added a 5/8" bomerage shakle lift alone with a 3.5 suspension lift to keep the 33" tires from rubbin at fullflex....i konw you don't plan on gettin into but you will in the future......it is very addictive so with the 4 inch total lift it wouldn't rub |
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Dan Pitts
Body Lift
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| 09/02/2008 5:33 PM |
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| in my opinion and not to step on any toes here i would go with the 31" tires cause a 33" also comes with a wider foot print and that makes the tire really heavy. A 31-10.50 tire would be the best it will change your out look and really make the jeep come to life. but instead of a AT tire i would go with a mudder it makes them come to life. you are just gonna have to trust me on this cause that little 2.5 4cyl you have has about as much power at my riding lawn mower lol. and they dont push the 33-12.50 down the road at any pase you wanna go at. trust me go with a 2" lift if any lift at all and the 31" mud tires. i have driven these jeeps with both set ups we are talking about and the 33" tires are hard to get movin down the road trust ME. |
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Danny Pitts
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jeepyj
Bone Stock
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| 09/02/2008 9:01 PM |
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| i will have to agree i am runnin the 33 with the 4 cyc and it has some trouble down the road and if you ain't doin much wheelin then go with the 31 it is easier to go bigger if wanted |
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webby4x4
Forum Admin, Magazine Editor
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| 09/02/2008 9:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dan Pitts
in my opinion and not to step on any toes here i would go with the 31" tires cause a 33" also comes with a wider foot print and that makes the tire really heavy. A 31-10.50 tire would be the best it will change your out look and really make the jeep come to life. but instead of a AT tire i would go with a mudder it makes them come to life. you are just gonna have to trust me on this cause that little 2.5 4cyl you have has about as much power at my riding lawn mower lol. and they dont push the 33-12.50 down the road at any pase you wanna go at. trust me go with a 2" lift if any lift at all and the 31" mud tires. i have driven these jeeps with both set ups we are talking about and the 33" tires are hard to get movin down the road trust ME.
Great point Danny. The great thing about the 4 cyl Jeep YJ's though, is that they came with deeper gears than the 6 cyl engine, so 33"s should too bad off. But, he will be adding about 75-100 pounds between the 5 tires (assuming he has a matching spare).
Thanks for the shout out on that Danny.
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sammy 87
Street Queen
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| 09/04/2008 12:31 AM |
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| umm i wouldnt sugjest even a 2inch body lift it has caused hell for my tj i had a 3inch that danny gave me and couldnt use the shifter boot it would interfere with 2nd gear. so i took it down to 2inch.it still interferes with 2nd and the boot. yjs are so easy cause of the leaf springs i would do a susp lift to keep away from the head aches ive had with the body lift. you could even rearch the springs to give it more. as i recall yj's leaf springs are relitivly flat if you rearched them you should be able to clear a 31 or 32 no prob. there is also no problem with 29 0r 30s mud tires. all terrains are good tires but if the hill gets snowy or skicl when it rains id opt for mud terrains. |
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Dan Pitts
Body Lift
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| 09/04/2008 6:33 PM |
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| on the other hand if you get a body lift that was made for your jeep and not a 87 toyota pick up you might not have the trouble SAMMY 87 has had lol. |
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Danny Pitts
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webby4x4
Forum Admin, Magazine Editor
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| 09/04/2008 9:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by sammy 87
you could even rearch the springs to give it more. as i recall yj's leaf springs are relitivly flat if you rearched them you should be able to clear a 31 or 32 no prob. there is also no problem with 29 0r 30s mud tires. all terrains are good tires but if the hill gets snowy or skicl when it rains id opt for mud terrains.
Stay away from re-arching... far, far away. That is, unless, you enjoy premature spring sagging and a really stiff ride.
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