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wolfman38
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| 10/06/2005 2:02 PM |
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I just recently bought a set of Interco TRXUS STS 33X12.50X16 for my '00 F-150 4X4. When I get around 40 mph, my steering wheel begins to shake. It does this while I am in the range a 40 - 50, but when I slow down past 40 or speed up past 50 it stops. And the ride is very smooth after that. It is just in that section of speed. I have had a new steering stabilzer put in. That helped some, but hasn't releived the problem. I thought it might be balancing, but if it was that it would be vibrating at all speeds. And it would really be shakeing when I hit interstate speed, but it rides real good at that speed. I can't figure out what is wrong. Can y'all think of anything?
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webby4x4
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| 10/06/2005 7:38 PM |
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I would really start by having the tire balanced or rebalanced.
If this doesn't do it, you might have a poorly cast tire, which is causing a side-to-side shimmy. Sometimes due to a belt seperation, sometimes just a bad casting or mold.
Lastly, if you recently went to a larger tire, you could have slightly worn components in your steering or suspension that have been aggrevated by the larger tire.
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SnoMan
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| 10/07/2005 9:40 AM |
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Originally posted by webby4x4
I would really start by having the tire balanced or rebalanced.
If this doesn't do it, you might have a poorly cast tire, which is causing a side-to-side shimmy. Sometimes due to a belt seperation, sometimes just a bad casting or mold.
Lastly, if you recently went to a larger tire, you could have slightly worn components in your steering or suspension that have been aggrevated by the larger tire.
Rick
Not so sure about this, you might be right but it could be a alignemennt issue. Sometimes when you get the right combo of tire drag and offset, caster, camber and toe, the front end can ocsilate/shake at certian speed really bad. |
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| 10/07/2005 10:35 AM |
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| wolfman38!
webby4x4,snoman have good idea's.also try rotating the tire's too front to back.sound's like a posible bent rim to me.
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wolfman38
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| 10/29/2005 4:34 PM |
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| This is to update y'all on this situation. I took my truck to a well known 4X4 shop not too far from the house, and had them rebalanced. They charged me almost twice as much to balance them, but I think that it was money well spent. Now I have no shakey issues with the tires, and I love them now. Thanks for all your advice. |
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webby4x4
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| 10/29/2005 4:55 PM |
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Good deal. Interco's are a bit tough to balance, but when it's done, will add some life to your tires.
A good trick that I do is to take a grease pencil and outline the wheel weights. That way, if you're off roading and you smack them against a rock or tree (or anything) and the wheel weight moves, you can slide it back into place. It'll also let you know if you loose one on the trail too.
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SnoMan
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| 10/30/2005 2:59 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by webby4x4
Good deal. Interco's are a bit tough to balance, but when it's done, will add some life to your tires.
A good trick that I do is to take a grease pencil and outline the wheel weights. That way, if you're off roading and you smack them against a rock or tree (or anything) and the wheel weight moves, you can slide it back into place. It'll also let you know if you loose one on the trail too.
Rick
Balance help but on the front axle of a TTB truck the tires will not last long balanced or not. Make sure you rotate them a lot to get max possible mileage out of them because that front end will eat them quickly if you do not. |
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wolfman38
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| 10/30/2005 8:35 AM |
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| Thanks again for the info. The 4X4 shopthat I went to ballanced the tires in a way I had never seen before. They spun the wheel to determine the weight needed, then took the tire off the rim, and placed the weight inside the tire. They then respun the tire, and added any outside weights if needed. The only thing to this way is that I will have to take the tires back to them to get them rebalanced when the time comes. But they ride as well as one can expect an off-raod tire to ride. |
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webby4x4
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| 10/30/2005 6:27 PM |
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| I've never seen that before... odd, yet interesting. |
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SnoMan
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| 10/31/2005 3:51 AM |
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Originally posted by webby4x4
I've never seen that before... odd, yet interesting.
I have seen and heard of the inside tire weights before. Generally they are reserved for extreme balance problems though on big tires. It actaully works better than rim weights because it balances the tire itself which is the cause of the problem rather than have to out of balance objects (the tire and the rim) trying to cancel each other out. I commend the poster for taking the time and expense to do it the best way possible. It should stay balance for a while too because the tire itself is balanced on its rotational axis. [:)] |
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webby4x4
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| 10/31/2005 7:24 AM |
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What type of weight do they use? is it glued in or something?
A few years back I saw some gel-like beads that OTR trucks would put inside their tires and the consistency / makeup would allow it to move automatically to the section of the tire that was lighter (poor wording), thereby automatically balancing he tire. I saw this at the SEMA expo, but never saw anything about it again. It reminded me of tire slime, but with some beads mixed in.
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wolfman38
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| 11/01/2005 7:57 AM |
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Not sure what type of weight was used. But they made a smooth patch inside the tire and rubber cemented (I believe) the weight to the tire. The weights they used were about 6" by 12" rectanguales(sp) with red paint on them.
Instead of the normal 10 - 12ozs (or more) needed to balance these tires they only used 7.75 ozs compared to the 11 and 12 that were on them before. |
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SnoMan
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| 11/02/2005 3:48 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by wolfman38
Not sure what type of weight was used. But they made a smooth patch inside the tire and rubber cemented (I believe) the weight to the tire. The weights they used were about 6" by 12" rectanguales(sp) with red paint on them.
Instead of the normal 10 - 12ozs (or more) needed to balance these tires they only used 7.75 ozs compared to the 11 and 12 that were on them before.
THe size of the weigh difference makes sence because the further out on the rolling radius the weigh is placed, the less that is required for the same effect. 10 to 12 oz on the rim is a LOT of weight, no wonder you had shimmy problems |
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