grumpydawg
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| 06/06/2005 9:14 AM |
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any suggestions for a gas tank sealer, i really don't want to spend almost 300 dollars for a new tank on my truck if i don't have to.
only 1 junk yard within 30 miles and he knows it he charges almost new prices for garbage |
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webby4x4
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| 06/06/2005 9:53 AM |
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Have you looked at replacement polyurethane gas tanks (NOT fuel cells)?
We got one pretty cheaply for our project Land Cruiser and they'll last a lifetime. http://www.4x4review.com/products/body/poly-tank.asp
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grumpydawg
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| 06/06/2005 12:24 PM |
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| looked in the jc whitney catalog and i think it was around 200 bucks |
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webby4x4
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| 06/06/2005 1:12 PM |
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If you're on a really tight budget, call a few radiator shops. Most can re-weld, re-coat gas tanks. I pached mine a few times and they lasted a few months or so, at best. The radiator shop is the next best solution, in my humble opinion.
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grumpydawg
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| 06/06/2005 1:41 PM |
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| i know that back in the dark ages(early 1980's)my dad used some 'jbweld'type stuff on the stationwagon's gas tank, he can't remember what brand it was, it worked good so it prolbly isn't made any more or has cancer causing junk in it |
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webby4x4
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| 06/06/2005 1:56 PM |
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POR-15 is the preferred "internal" gas tank sealant, which is what is used by most radiator shops.
Some of the external patches are a combination of fiberglass cloth and some resin mixture (NOT the type you smoke, unless someone's a real freak), while others are a "stick" that you can rub on the hole.
Permatex makes a kit you can use - http://www.permatex.com/auto/autouc.asp?automotive=yes&f_call=get_item&item_no=80884
JBWeld will also work, but I've heard it doesn't work if gas is still dripping out of the offending hole. I've heard of people using JBWeld to patch holes and it's lasted for years. (Heck, I used it on a radiator once and didn't replace it for 5 years).
Hope this helps.
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grumpydawg
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| 06/08/2005 12:29 PM |
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how about if i put on a fiberglass patch?
is it gas resisant?
i have a bunch of fiberglass left over from patching my boat. |
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grumpydawg
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| 06/08/2005 12:49 PM |
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never mind if i would have re-read the posts i wouldn't have to have asked.(slapping my self about the head)
sorry
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grumpydawg
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| 08/14/2005 11:58 AM |
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| well i patched the gas tank with fiberglass, had a rust hole/ rub hole right under one of the straps, orgional cloth was rotted away--replaced with a couple of peices of bike inner tubes, been running it every day for 2 months and no leaks |
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webby4x4
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| 08/14/2005 8:13 PM |
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Cool!
Keep an eye on it though, espeically if it gets wet and muddy a lot there.
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grumpydawg
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| 11/11/2005 7:11 AM |
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5 months and no leaks!
time to sing praises for fiberglass! |
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webby4x4
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| 11/11/2005 6:29 PM |
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Awesome! I wonder if the winter weather will affect it some though? Maybe make it brittle?
Not saying it will or it won't, but more curious than anything else.
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grumpydawg
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| 11/12/2005 7:11 AM |
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to tell you the truth, the truck hasen't made it out for wheeling senice i've owned it, i think i only put in 4wd about 6 times in almost 2 years, once to get off ice and a couple of times to pull stumps and concrete out of yards.
cross your fingers for a "good holding job" this winter |
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grumpydawg
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| 12/02/2005 10:50 PM |
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| well unfortently, the tank has started to leak a little, park for 24 hours and there's a "wet" spot about a foot in diamanter, don't know if my patch is 'jumping ship' or have a new hole forming, it's a little cold to be laying under the truck right now, so hopefully it don't get too bad before spring! |
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webby4x4
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| 12/03/2005 8:27 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by webby4x4
Awesome! I wonder if the winter weather will affect it some though? Maybe make it brittle?
Not saying it will or it won't, but more curious than anything else.
Rick
I kind of figured that would happen. I've not seen a patch last longer than a few months, they just become too brittle.
If you're still on a tight budeget (who isn't?), you can call some radiator shops to see if they repair gas tanks (many don't anymore though).
Or... invest in lots and lots of kitty litter. [)] |
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grumpydawg
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| 12/03/2005 9:47 AM |
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the closest radaator shop is a hour away.
found a "auto recycling" (p.c. way of saying junk yard??)place about 20 miles from me who only deals in fords. it's a small place, sells lawn mowers and chain saws, drove past him a zillon times and never noticed it before, i need to see how much for a tank. |
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webby4x4
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| 12/03/2005 11:22 AM |
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Thoughts:
Recycled gas tank:
1) Inspect if closely for damage and rust. Pay particular attention to where the mounting straps touch the tank, AND where the hoses attach to the inlets for rust and damage
2) If you buy a recycled tank, it will be well worth the money to have it serviced at a radiator shop so that they can reapply a new inner liner, as well as remove loose inside rust, debris, etc.
Consider both of these costs to that of a replacement poly gas tank. Sometimes it's cheaper, the same or more, but worth a look nonetheless.
At least that's my two sense. ;)
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grumpydawg
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| 12/03/2005 5:02 PM |
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| when all else fails i have 2 boat gas tanks(6 gals. each), a little fuel line and i'm set untill spring or i win the lottery, which ever comes first |
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| 12/03/2005 6:33 PM |
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| How would you plumb the vent and return lines? |
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grumpydawg
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| 12/04/2005 7:29 AM |
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| '86 ford with a 1bbl carb, no return lines, vent in boat tank cap. |
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webby4x4
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| 12/04/2005 7:37 AM |
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| nice. Last year for carb'd motors on that truck right? |
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grumpydawg
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| 12/04/2005 8:59 AM |
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i think early 87 was the "cut off", i'll have to check the book, i know that 88 had fuel injection
edit:
my book only goes to 86 but you know that there are odd ball combonations from the factory out there.
i know i owned at least 1
1977 ford ltd country squire station wagon, with the 460 4 bbl,
parts store said that it didn't exist, so had to look up parts for vans and trucks.
took odd ball starter and fuel pump(more expensive!!) |
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grumpydawg
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| 02/09/2006 9:54 AM |
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this past weekend i called around to all of the junk yards with in 100 miles and the cheepest i found was 85 bucks (he wouldnt take does or racoons)as is.
called auto zone and got a new one for $110 with tax and a 3 month gaurentee.
now i got to wait till it's a wee bit warmer on the weekends to put it on. |
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webby4x4
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| 02/13/2006 9:46 PM |
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Gas could freeze in Indiana right now... at least the snot in my nose is freezing when I walk outside!
This sucks! I've got stuff to paint and get ready for the Easter Jeep Safari. Where's the 60 degree weather we had last month? |
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grumpydawg
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| 04/02/2006 7:37 PM |
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finally got the tank installed this weekend, now i have to put in a fuel pump, easy to get to at least and having dropped sooooo much money at the parts store i got it for about 7 bucks with tax.
i walk in the parts store now they already have my info punched in the computer and asking what i'm working on this time. |
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