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Pathfinder05
Bone Stock
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| 10/05/2005 8:44 PM |
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| Why is there no one talking about that Machine?
That truck is fabulous on road and Off road. The look is killing, a real muscle truck. Great engine, really powerful and quiet on road. For the offroad, works very good in sand, mud and rucks. Very impressive truck. People thinking that Jeep has a good mid size truck(Cherokee, Grand Cherokee) well, let me tell you that the New Pathfinder has nothing to envi to the Cherokee.
If you know someone who has a New Pathfinder, ask them. If you have any other SUV, challenge the one who have the new Pathfinder and you will see that the new Nissan is the one to beat now....
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webby4x4
Forum Admin, Magazine Editor
Rock Star
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| 10/06/2005 7:32 PM |
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Hey Pathfinder05 - you know, you're right. The Pathfinder is a pretty capable vehicle, all things considered and it certainly is underrated. The problems are several fold...
1) Nissan doesn't do a very good job marketing the vehicle. IMHO, they focus more on their sedan and sport coupe market. They did make a good run at it several years back when they made some major advances in the truck market, but their sales didn't reflect as much.
2) Nissan's target buyer doesn't align well with people who do any moderate or serious off roading.
3) Nissan has historically not aligned themselves with the press, which means that it won't get promoted well in the magazine or 'net based publications.
4) Nissan doesn't share technical information or donate vehicles to the aftermarket manufacturers, which means that there are few aftermarket accessories for it.
It's a real shame actually because I've wheeled them before and was pretty impressed at their stock ability.
As far as the Pathfinder being a better off road vehicle than the Grand Cherokee, well, that's a matter of opinion at some level.
Feature by feature, the Pathfinder has more to offer in this model year (2005) than the Grand Cherokee, which means that it's a better loaded vehicle.
However, if you start to compare stats, you'll find that the GC has many off-road advantages such as:
1) A live (solid) rear axle which articulate more
2) The turning radius is tighter by nearly 3 feet
3) Greater payload and towing capabilities
4) Better approach and departure angles (huge off-road advantage)
5) Is a lighter vehicle
6) Has an optional V8
7) Has SLA front suspension versus double wishbone
The Pathfinder certainly has some advantages over the GC, but they fall more within the creature-comfort area than anything else.
Again, the Pathfinder is a good off-road machine, but I don't think I'd agree that it's better than a Jeep GC... This coming from someone who's pretty neutral too.
Rick
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Rick Webster
Editor, 4X4REVIEW.COM - A Tork Media, Inc. Publication
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Pathfinder05
Bone Stock
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| 10/10/2005 1:48 PM |
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| Thanks for your opinion. I'm not in Jeep at all so maybe that does not help about what I think of Jeep. Any way, it's good to see that I'm not the only one who thinks that the new Path is rated below what it should really be!!!
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webby4x4
Forum Admin, Magazine Editor
Rock Star
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| 10/10/2005 5:34 PM |
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| Do you own one? If so, drop some pictures here for us to see. |
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Rick Webster
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4xguy
Street Queen
Posts:104
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| 10/10/2005 5:35 PM |
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| I second that - upload some pics |
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Jason Gorpman, Esq. |
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Pathfinder05
Bone Stock
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| 10/12/2005 3:24 AM |
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| Why do you need pictures, there is plenty of them, probably better than the ones I can send, on the net. I used mine only once on offroad and I didn't take pictures. On the road, in my driveway, what is the use to send some pictures of that??
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4xguy
Street Queen
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| 10/12/2005 7:01 AM |
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| Wow - so you get on your Jeep-bashing soap box, and you've only had it off-road once? |
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Jason Gorpman, Esq. |
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Pathfinder05
Bone Stock
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| 10/14/2005 10:31 AM |
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| OK, I suggest you wake the hell up because I did not did a Jeep-bashing soap box, like you say, I have just give my opinion about what I think of Jeep. Anything that is related to Chrystler for ME, is crap. It's my opinion. To bad you are a moderator on that forum, you should know that a forum is to express opinions to!!!!
At lease, Webby 4X4 has givin me a good reply, but you, you should smell the coffee or make a request to change the name of the site for Jeep fan forum!!!
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4xguy
Street Queen
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| 10/14/2005 8:32 PM |
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Ummm... I don't even own a Jeep anymore and I just checked my pulse - I am awake! Have I consedered owning Jeeps recently? Yes, but just as much as any other 4-wheel drive. But the salient point isn't about whether or not I own a Jeep. The point is that I made the comment that you were on your Jeep-bashing soap box because you said the following AND you've only taken your Pathfinder off road once, which means you really have nothing to even compare the two vehicles against.
I'm 100%, completely, unequivocably, all for opinions. That's what makes this forum and our country as great as it is. But if you start saying the following, you'd better have something to back it up with.
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Originally posted by Pathfinder05
For the offroad, works very good in sand, mud and rocks.
People thinking that Jeep has a good mid size truck(Cherokee, Grand Cherokee) well, let me tell you that the New Pathfinder has nothing to envi to the Cherokee.
Let's look at what you said and break it down...
1) You've wheeled your truck in sand, mud and rocks. That statement makes the reader assume that you've been on multiple off-road adventures. It's misleading.
2) "the new Pathfind has nothing to envy to the Cherokee" - so you're saying that the Cherokee doesn't hold a candle to the pathfinder on or off road (if you read your entire paragraph).
MY point is this. You stated that the Pathfinder is a great truck - I don't deny that. In fact, I agree, it truley is.
Webby kindly asked for some pictures and you shut the door on him pretty hard. Then you make the statement that you've only had it off road once, after you went on and on about how much better the Pathfinder is than the Jeep.
So the question is this... How many times have you taken a Jeep off-road?
No harm no foul - just some honest debates. I'm not flaming, just questioning your comments. Don't take it personal man. |
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ChevyMan0784
Lift & Lockers
Posts:699
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| 10/07/2006 7:42 PM |
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| ALRIGHT!!!! This is fun!! Here's what I've got...I live in Alaksa, a pretty good place to test vehicles if you ask me. Heres why...We have rocks, not just any rocks either. We have small, medium, and large rocks and boulders. The reason for that is river-runoffs from glaciers that dried up, and some haven't. That (the ones that haven't dried) means there is water to forge. And we have forests with gumbo mud covered in rootmat for floors. And we have sand pits that have litterally swallowed many trucks (and that is NOT an exaggeration). And we have sandpits. Not to mention, we have snow that would put damn near every state to shame up here. We are talking like 6 feet over night easy in some places. Now, I could go on for ever about the terrain, but I really want to talk about the vehicles I have had the pleasure to drive and get stuck in. Now,. all of these terrains range from things most guys would laugh at to stuff that even the MOST seasoned 'wheelers would scream at and run away from. So I have tested a Nissan Pathfinder, Grand Cherokee, Blazers (many), Fords of various types, Wranglers, Toys, Dodges, and International Scouts. Now, I AM a Chevy guy and am vary biased. They are the "best vehicles out there" jk, that really is my opinion. But I can tell you from some very dead reall experience that if you put the matching tires on a Pathfinder (in my case 31" BFG MTs) and a Grand Cherokee...your statement that says that a Pathfinder is statistically better than a Cherokee is BS. You have obviously NOT actually FOURWHEELED it. I can absolutely guarentee that the Cherokee would go alot farther down the trail than your Pathfinder. Now, you do have a great puddle stomping grocery getter though. Rides great for a "4x4". But the creature comforts inside still don't really cut it the same way a Grand Cherokee does. I took both down the same trail...and the same exact route. And I tell you what, no matter how hard me and my friend Ian tried the Pathfinder just couldn't cut it like our friend Enri's Cherokee did. End of story. And I met one guy that had a seariously modified Pathfinder with straight front axle and all, and my 84 K5 beat the living tar out of it on the trail. And I didn't have to do nearly as much to get my rig that way. So, before you go giving your "opinion", be sure you have the facts straight. You are talking to guys who really know their stuff. And if you want pics of my rig, no prob. I'll send you one of it stock, modified, really modified, and rolling over the top of an S10. And all for under 10, 000 bucks. Compare that. |
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gimmie fuel gimmie fire gimmie that which I desire-James Hetfield
*Never give an Irish man good cause for revenge.
*Guns dont kill people, but they sure help!!
*98% OF AMERICANS SAY 'OH S**t' BEFORE GOING IN THE DITCH ON A ICEY ROAD.
THE OTHER 2% ARE FROM ALASKA, AND THEY SAY, 'HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS |
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ChevyMan0784
Lift & Lockers
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| 10/07/2006 7:49 PM |
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| Oh and P.s., I am really not trying to be a dick here...its just what you said, or the way you said it, doesn't hold water. And the best rig I have seen, at least out here, is probably an FJ. They are simply bullet proof. (Especially with a Chevy 350, heh heh heh...) Even stock, they out do most. Just my opinion, and remember I am a Chevy guy!!! lol[banger] |
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gimmie fuel gimmie fire gimmie that which I desire-James Hetfield
*Never give an Irish man good cause for revenge.
*Guns dont kill people, but they sure help!!
*98% OF AMERICANS SAY 'OH S**t' BEFORE GOING IN THE DITCH ON A ICEY ROAD.
THE OTHER 2% ARE FROM ALASKA, AND THEY SAY, 'HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS |
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webby4x4
Forum Admin, Magazine Editor
Rock Star
Posts:2375
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| 10/09/2006 6:28 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ChevyMan0784
...And the best rig I have seen, at least out here, is probably an FJ.[banger]
Oh man... I think I just got wood! [)]
ChevyMan0784 - you ARE the man!
Here's my rig:
[img]http://www.4x4review.com/discussions2/uploaded/webby4x4/2006109182450_4X4REV-Cruiser002.jpg[/img]
And here's a teaser on an article coming up (can you put 2 and 2 together?):
[img]http://www.4x4review.com/discussions2/uploaded/webby4x4/2006109182645_DSC04290-sm.JPG[/img] |
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Rick Webster
Editor, 4X4REVIEW.COM - A Tork Media, Inc. Publication
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"Measure once, cut twice" |
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ChevyMan0784
Lift & Lockers
Posts:699
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| 10/11/2006 7:36 PM |
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This is my rig and a friend of mine (to the right) running over his old S10. Ladies and Gentlemen!!!! Blazer Vs. S10!!!!!!! Blazer wins!!!
Download Attachment: [url="http://www.4x4review.com/discussions2/uploaded/ChevyMan0784/20061011192552_K5 vs. S10 003.jpg"][img]images/icon_paperclip.gif[/img] K5 vs. S10 003.jpg[/url] <-- Filesize = 324.25 KB
I have alot of other good ones, much better ones (actually wheeling) but they won't load up for some reason. So for now this is it!!! Wish it were an FJ, but its what I got and I love it!!! |
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gimmie fuel gimmie fire gimmie that which I desire-James Hetfield
*Never give an Irish man good cause for revenge.
*Guns dont kill people, but they sure help!!
*98% OF AMERICANS SAY 'OH S**t' BEFORE GOING IN THE DITCH ON A ICEY ROAD.
THE OTHER 2% ARE FROM ALASKA, AND THEY SAY, 'HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS |
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ChevyMan0784
Lift & Lockers
Posts:699
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| 10/13/2006 9:05 PM |
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| Hey Pathfinder guy....I didn't go and run you off did I?? Throw us a couple pics of your rig. Maybe take it out into a field somewhere, git her muddy, and send us a pic... Webby, I seem to be having a problem downloading images when trying to post...It always seems that it says the file is too big or something...any ideas?? Also...that motor gives me chills. Get some pics of you pulling up on a ricer....man they'll be surprised!!!! lol |
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gimmie fuel gimmie fire gimmie that which I desire-James Hetfield
*Never give an Irish man good cause for revenge.
*Guns dont kill people, but they sure help!!
*98% OF AMERICANS SAY 'OH S**t' BEFORE GOING IN THE DITCH ON A ICEY ROAD.
THE OTHER 2% ARE FROM ALASKA, AND THEY SAY, 'HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS |
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webby4x4
Forum Admin, Magazine Editor
Rock Star
Posts:2375
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| 10/14/2006 12:57 PM |
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That's an awesome picture ChevyMan! Bet that was a blast to drive onto another car and crush it like that. Cool looking rig too!
Pathfinder guy - he took off a long time ago and never came back when 4Xguy dug his heels in.
Engine - It's still in the building process for an upcoming series of articles. And yes, it'll go into our '74 FJ40, and yes, we'll get some sweet videos of the power it produces. More to come on that in a month or two.
Pictures - are you talking about uploading pictures to the bulletin boards, or downloading ones that someone else has posted?
If the answer is uploading, and you're getting an error stating that the file is too big, it's because we put limits on how big (in Megabytes) the files can be. It gets expensive buying big diskdrives for our web servers. To fix this, open your file and reduce its size, then resave it and try uploading it again. If you don't know how to do this, email me a picture or two and I'll resize them for you.
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Rick |
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Rick Webster
Editor, 4X4REVIEW.COM - A Tork Media, Inc. Publication
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"Measure once, cut twice" |
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ChevyMan0784
Lift & Lockers
Posts:699
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| 10/15/2006 9:26 PM |
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| Cool, thanks...that will probably work. I will try it when I get home this thurs. Internet is slow on the Slope right now... Well, it is too bad Pathfinder didn't hold his ground....lol, but hey whateva. I cant wait see all the good pics of that beautiful motor going into such an awsome rig. I wish I could go wheeling this winter, but my tranny went out and I am parking her til next summer. It is too much to work on a rig in 20 below...not something I want to after being in 70 below. But if I do I will post pics of snow wheelin. |
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gimmie fuel gimmie fire gimmie that which I desire-James Hetfield
*Never give an Irish man good cause for revenge.
*Guns dont kill people, but they sure help!!
*98% OF AMERICANS SAY 'OH S**t' BEFORE GOING IN THE DITCH ON A ICEY ROAD.
THE OTHER 2% ARE FROM ALASKA, AND THEY SAY, 'HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS |
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talon79ta
Bone Stock
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| 12/05/2006 12:54 PM |
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well seems like things get interesting and then poof..no controversy.lol Well im no hard-core off roader, never ben able to afford it but i do have a 95 pathfinder and a 93 jeep cherokee..Ive driven them both in not too insane off road conditions, at least what we have here in ohio, michigan area--mostly for hunting..
The pathfinder has a pretty solid running in my opinion only,, great feeling in and out.. I havent ever had it in some place i didnt feel i was in real trouble, again though not hardcore, and looks are simply awesome.. now the jeep part of it, I cant stand the grand cherokee, god its ugly, lol. Now I really love my Cherokee, Country edition.. The nice torque and power from the 4 ltr is really noticable and seems to edge out the pathfinder 3 ltr..And the just overall viewing area is vastly better in the jeep..
so for the "treading lightly" that i do in those two machines I would have to say it went to the jeep, but i can definitly say i wont be giving my pathfinder up any time in the near future either.. stay cool |
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