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ChevyMan0784
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| 10/12/2006 8:57 PM |
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| Alright lets see how many of you have a Scout out there...this might take for freaking ever considering the fact that NO ONE seems to check this part of the forums out. I think scouts are cool...why not, I mean...they are sorta unique. So for all of you folks out there with one be proud and show your colors!! |
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*Never give an Irish man good cause for revenge.
*Guns dont kill people, but they sure help!!
*98% OF AMERICANS SAY 'OH S**t' BEFORE GOING IN THE DITCH ON A ICEY ROAD.
THE OTHER 2% ARE FROM ALASKA, AND THEY SAY, 'HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS |
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Street Queen
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| 10/13/2006 8:52 PM |
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Chevyman.
I dont have a scout but I would love to hear what makes them great. I love wierd old vehicles.
What do you like about them? |
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ChevyMan0784
Lift & Lockers
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| 10/21/2006 9:45 PM |
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It isnt that it is wierd...it is more like a cult like deal. There were only so many made to begin with, and only a few have them. They fall in the realm of Blazers, Broncos, Izuzu Troopers, even FJs to an extent. They are put in the early SUV type category. There are some that are full convertibles (way cool in my mind) and some that aren't convertible at all. They were made by International Harvester. A truck with the mindset of a John Deere. In other words, durability...and IH used to and still does make farm equipment and heavy equipment. More recently they made a 7.4 litre diesel for Ford in the 80s I think...dont quote me on the years...but if I absolutely had to have an F-word... it would be one with an IH motor in it. Talk about run forever with serious abuse.
Here is a good link with good info that is much better than mine....
http://4wheeldrive.about.com/cs/international/a/aa010103a.htm
There is more info out there. But these rigs have a personality of their own, from farm equipment, to war machines, to trucks and heavy equipment...IH is one of the oldest companies with the reputation they have, and as many fields dabled in. |
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gimmie fuel gimmie fire gimmie that which I desire-James Hetfield
*Never give an Irish man good cause for revenge.
*Guns dont kill people, but they sure help!!
*98% OF AMERICANS SAY 'OH S**t' BEFORE GOING IN THE DITCH ON A ICEY ROAD.
THE OTHER 2% ARE FROM ALASKA, AND THEY SAY, 'HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS |
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webby4x4
Forum Admin, Magazine Editor
Rock Star
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| 10/23/2006 8:16 PM |
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Ahhh... the ol' Corn Binder!
In my humble opinion, they are an interesting mix of sheer utility with a complete lack of styling (although there is a hint of the old Dodge Power Wagon's which was cool), which makes for an interesting combination.
When IH first started building them, they took a run after the Bronco / Blazer market and did so by building it with a hodge-podge (or best-of-breed if you're a "cup half full" kind of guy) of parts - Example: Dana 44 axles, Torqueflight 727 trans, overbuilt steering boxes and so on.
Overall though, they are pretty cool rigs and they're damned durable, even though they lack in the 'visual appeal' area (again, in my humble opinion). |
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SnoMan
Lift & Lockers
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| 10/24/2006 4:55 AM |
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| I owned a Scout with a 345 for several years in early 80's. (I think it was a 78 or 79 as I recall) They where simple, sturdy and crude. What killed them off was the big IH strke here in early 80's that eventualy shut down forever the light truck bussiness and the later sale of IH Farm Division to Case. The classic weakness of a scout was the use of very poor quality steel in body they rusted easily and the inside body panels where also bare steel with no paint at all (not even a primer) just waiting to rust. Some of the late 60's through early 70's scouts with the half a V8 4 cyl or 152 and 196 (half a 304 or 392) where tuff no nonsense vehicals that were well built frame, suspension and drivetrain wise and could take a beating. They were not the fastest or quietest but you could count on them surviving and getting you there. The were Jeeps only serious US made challange. |
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webby4x4
Forum Admin, Magazine Editor
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| 10/24/2006 1:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by SnoMan
...They were Jeeps only serious US made challange.
You don't think the older box Bronco's were in that same class?
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ChevyMan0784
Lift & Lockers
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| 11/08/2006 12:55 PM |
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| HaHa, I would say that the Bronco was definately a huge competitior. Especially with the better looks and more. This class would be (in my opinion) IH Scout, Jeep Cherrokee (and Chief), Ford Bronco, Chevrolet(GMC) Blazer and Jimmy, and even some FJ series. There are probably others that I missed...but Jeep wasn't the ONLY US competitor(and yes I know that the FJ is not American). But with that said, the Scout was an awsome, rugged, four wheelin machine. Even if the looks aren't killer (which all depends on your pespective, just like Rick said). |
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gimmie fuel gimmie fire gimmie that which I desire-James Hetfield
*Never give an Irish man good cause for revenge.
*Guns dont kill people, but they sure help!!
*98% OF AMERICANS SAY 'OH S**t' BEFORE GOING IN THE DITCH ON A ICEY ROAD.
THE OTHER 2% ARE FROM ALASKA, AND THEY SAY, 'HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS |
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SnoMan
Lift & Lockers
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| 11/09/2006 5:35 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by webby4x4
quote:
Originally posted by SnoMan
...They were Jeeps only serious US made challange.
You don't think the older box Bronco's were in that same class?
Rick
No not a serious competitor. Scouts were kinda in a class by themselve. They were well built from the ground up and offered factory LSD front and rear. When you owned one and drove it or worked on it there was no doubt in your mind of its mission and origin (built from no frills true truck roots) Had it not been for the big IH strike, it might have survived.I have seen some old stock scouts take some serious beatings and survive. My favorite one were the old simple ones with manual trannies and the 196 4 banger that was half a 392. It was a torquey tractor like motor that did well slugging it out off road. |
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ChevyMan0784
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| 11/09/2006 3:36 PM |
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| Heck yea SnoMan! Those old ones are awsome....I would like to find one, but it has been a little difficult. Most seem to be beat the crap out of and total rust buckets by now. Not to mention a few I have seen with the original 4 cyl subbed for a V8. |
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gimmie fuel gimmie fire gimmie that which I desire-James Hetfield
*Never give an Irish man good cause for revenge.
*Guns dont kill people, but they sure help!!
*98% OF AMERICANS SAY 'OH S**t' BEFORE GOING IN THE DITCH ON A ICEY ROAD.
THE OTHER 2% ARE FROM ALASKA, AND THEY SAY, 'HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS |
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SnoMan
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| 11/10/2006 2:03 PM |
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Originally posted by ChevyMan0784
Heck yea SnoMan! Those old ones are awsome....I would like to find one, but it has been a little difficult. Most seem to be beat the crap out of and total rust buckets by now. Not to mention a few I have seen with the original 4 cyl subbed for a V8.
If you are serious about finding one if you look out in Colorado, Wyoming,Idaho and maybe Montana you will find there are still several on the road out there and for sale from time to time. Lot of old Jeeps too. Basically no road salt out there in most places so they last. |
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