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01/27/2003 2:03 PM  
I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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02/07/2003 12:32 AM  
Hi Mark, I have a message on here regarding my 2003 Tundra( same engine I think) I get an intermittent growling noise with a corresponding vibration through the floor when the truck is driven after being idle for a few hours. The noise fades away after about 5 miles. Used to disappear after 2 miles so it's getting worse. The dealer and Toyota acknowlege the problem and Toyota is "working on a solution". There is one person in the US that I know of who had the same problem and after a lot of hassle with Toyota got them to change the front differential; it solved the problem. I think that is my problem and probably yours. I hope Toyota isn't stalling. Hope this helps.



Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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02/15/2003 9:17 AM  
------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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02/19/2003 8:27 AM  
I have a 2003 sequoia 4WD and have a similar front driveline problem. In fact it is similar to the what Christopher describes in his reply. I think the Tundra and the Sequoia use the same driveline, but I'm not sure about the 4-runner. I have been interfacing with the dealer for the last 2700 miles (I have 2800 mile on the vehicle) regarding the vibration/dronning at low speeds, 0-40 mph. It discontinues as soon as I engage 4WD and often goes away after I disengage 4WD. Toyota says it is a front differential design issue where the lube oil viscosity is causes the front differential spider gears and driveshaft to rotate when in 2WD, and that it usually only happens when it is cold (ambient temperature). In my case it happens every other day or when the temperature is below 65F. Toyota says they are working on a fix, but don't want to change the front differential because it may not fix the problem. They basically said that I have to wait for a fix. I started a new discussion thread on this before I saw this one, but I haven't gotten any replies yet.

I'm not going to give up....Brian

------------ christopher bishopp at 2/7/2003 12:32:29 AM

Hi Mark, I have a message on here regarding my 2003 Tundra( same engine I think) I get an intermittent growling noise with a corresponding vibration through the floor when the truck is driven after being idle for a few hours. The noise fades away after about 5 miles. Used to disappear after 2 miles so it's getting worse. The dealer and Toyota acknowlege the problem and Toyota is "working on a solution". There is one person in the US that I know of who had the same problem and after a lot of hassle with Toyota got them to change the front differential; it solved the problem. I think that is my problem and probably yours. I hope Toyota isn't stalling. Hope this helps.



Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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02/20/2003 7:37 PM  
some dealerships are switching the drive shaft toone with a double cardigan joint. seemed to help on my 92.
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02/23/2003 2:58 AM  
------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?





i was noticeing the same thing on my 2003 sport 70 mph i could feel it in the floor post back if find anything out i will do the same
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02/24/2003 9:31 PM  
Mark; I have a 2002 Limited 4runner with 8,000km (Canada) on it. I noticed the same vibration at around the same milage. The ya-ya-ya-ya drown usually starts at 90km/hr and is noticable to 130km/hr. After that, at 140 I can't hear it any more. It only seems to happen when the transmittion is in lock-up mode in 5th gear. If you drop it into 4th the noise will go away. At 120km per hour the ya-ya as I call it repeats 2 times every second. I recently went back to my dealer and took another 2003 v-8 4-runner out for a test, unfortunatly it had the exact same sound, just not as promenant. Also the noise is only there when your foot is on the gas and the truck is under load. I can feel it in the shifter, stering wheel, and peddles. My guts tell me it's the transmittion, if it was any other part of the driveline it would br constant. Remember, it is a new 5 speed we are dealing with. When the v-6 comes out, it will tell all, as it has only a 4-speed trans. Keith.





------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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02/26/2003 5:07 PM  
Keith,

Sounds like Toyota has many vibration problems.

I also drove 2 other 2003 V8 4Runners on the dealer's lot. One was a V8 Sport similar to mine and had the same vibration although not as bad as mine. The other was a V8 Limited which had NO vibration at all.

The vibration occurs over 72 mph in overdrive (5th gear) and out of overdrive (4th gear) only when the vehicle is under load. The vibration also occurs with the Transfer Case Locked and Unlocked. If I take my foot off of the throttle when the vibration is occuring the vibration instantly stops. It IS a torque induced vibration which I am guessing is comming from a driveshaft, differential, or transfer case.

The dealer has done some testing on demo v8 4Runner with a simialr vibration problem. They removed the front shaft (transfer case to front axle) and locked the transfer case and the vibration went away. They then took the front shaft out of the V8 Limited which did not have any vibrations and put it into the demo V8 Runner and the problem came back. What they did not do was remove the rear shaft and see what happens. This would have told them if the transfer case was causing the vibration. I suggested this test to them but they have not tried it yet.

The local Toyota Tech rep was at the dealer yesterday to work on the vibration problem and concluded they are going to put new tires on my Runner (Michelins replacing the Dunlops). They said this will fix the problem. I really don't think this will do anything other than give me 2 out of 3 attempts to fix the problem. I only need 3 before I can claim the lemon law. (The dealers 1st attempt was to balance the tires?? Which I told them was not the problem because if the tires were out of balance the vibration would happen with or without the throttle pressed.)

I will let you know what happens.

Mark



------------ Keith at 2/24/2003 9:31:25 PM

Mark; I have a 2002 Limited 4runner with 8,000km (Canada) on it. I noticed the same vibration at around the same milage. The ya-ya-ya-ya drown usually starts at 90km/hr and is noticable to 130km/hr. After that, at 140 I can't hear it any more. It only seems to happen when the transmittion is in lock-up mode in 5th gear. If you drop it into 4th the noise will go away. At 120km per hour the ya-ya as I call it repeats 2 times every second. I recently went back to my dealer and took another 2003 v-8 4-runner out for a test, unfortunatly it had the exact same sound, just not as promenant. Also the noise is only there when your foot is on the gas and the truck is under load. I can feel it in the shifter, stering wheel, and peddles. My guts tell me it's the transmittion, if it was any other part of the driveline it would br constant. Remember, it is a new 5 speed we are dealing with. When the v-6 comes out, it will tell all, as it has only a 4-speed trans. Keith.





------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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03/09/2003 8:48 AM  
Hi Mark; Been out of town for a while..... Did you get your new tires and have they made a diffrence? Keith ------------ Mark at 2/26/2003 5:07:00 PM

Keith,

Sounds like Toyota has many vibration problems.

I also drove 2 other 2003 V8 4Runners on the dealer's lot. One was a V8 Sport similar to mine and had the same vibration although not as bad as mine. The other was a V8 Limited which had NO vibration at all.

The vibration occurs over 72 mph in overdrive (5th gear) and out of overdrive (4th gear) only when the vehicle is under load. The vibration also occurs with the Transfer Case Locked and Unlocked. If I take my foot off of the throttle when the vibration is occuring the vibration instantly stops. It IS a torque induced vibration which I am guessing is comming from a driveshaft, differential, or transfer case.

The dealer has done some testing on demo v8 4Runner with a simialr vibration problem. They removed the front shaft (transfer case to front axle) and locked the transfer case and the vibration went away. They then took the front shaft out of the V8 Limited which did not have any vibrations and put it into the demo V8 Runner and the problem came back. What they did not do was remove the rear shaft and see what happens. This would have told them if the transfer case was causing the vibration. I suggested this test to them but they have not tried it yet.

The local Toyota Tech rep was at the dealer yesterday to work on the vibration problem and concluded they are going to put new tires on my Runner (Michelins replacing the Dunlops). They said this will fix the problem. I really don't think this will do anything other than give me 2 out of 3 attempts to fix the problem. I only need 3 before I can claim the lemon law. (The dealers 1st attempt was to balance the tires?? Which I told them was not the problem because if the tires were out of balance the vibration would happen with or without the throttle pressed.)

I will let you know what happens.

Mark



------------ Keith at 2/24/2003 9:31:25 PM

Mark; I have a 2002 Limited 4runner with 8,000km (Canada) on it. I noticed the same vibration at around the same milage. The ya-ya-ya-ya drown usually starts at 90km/hr and is noticable to 130km/hr. After that, at 140 I can't hear it any more. It only seems to happen when the transmittion is in lock-up mode in 5th gear. If you drop it into 4th the noise will go away. At 120km per hour the ya-ya as I call it repeats 2 times every second. I recently went back to my dealer and took another 2003 v-8 4-runner out for a test, unfortunatly it had the exact same sound, just not as promenant. Also the noise is only there when your foot is on the gas and the truck is under load. I can feel it in the shifter, stering wheel, and peddles. My guts tell me it's the transmittion, if it was any other part of the driveline it would br constant. Remember, it is a new 5 speed we are dealing with. When the v-6 comes out, it will tell all, as it has only a 4-speed trans. Keith.





------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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03/12/2003 6:43 AM  
I bought a Sport V-8 in late December. I have no vibration problems at all. I have had it at 70 on cruise, and up to 80 with no vibration problems. Even Toyota can build lemons,though. Best of luck. ------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor
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------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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03/20/2003 6:51 AM  
I have a brand new Toyota 4Runner SR5 with a horrible Vibration above 50 miles. I purchased this from Cherokee County Toyota, after replacing a set of new tires (Dunlap) with Michelin tires I still have the problem, the dealer refuses to help me claiming that this is "normal road noise". At this point I am seeking legal advised to take them to court, refusing to help and resolve the issue (700 miles on this vehicle). In addition I like to mention the Sulfer smell that won't go away. Any assistance anyone can provide will be greatly appreciated.

------------ christopher bishopp at 2/7/2003 12:32:29 AM

Hi Mark, I have a message on here regarding my 2003 Tundra( same engine I think) I get an intermittent growling noise with a corresponding vibration through the floor when the truck is driven after being idle for a few hours. The noise fades away after about 5 miles. Used to disappear after 2 miles so it's getting worse. The dealer and Toyota acknowlege the problem and Toyota is "working on a solution". There is one person in the US that I know of who had the same problem and after a lot of hassle with Toyota got them to change the front differential; it solved the problem. I think that is my problem and probably yours. I hope Toyota isn't stalling. Hope this helps.



Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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03/27/2003 9:24 PM  
Keith,

The dealer installed the Michelin tires last week. March 18th to be exact. Just as I predicted no change. The vibration is the same although the Toyota Tech. rep said the problems was fixed. I have another appointment the second week of April to have the tech rep investigate the problem again. I will let you know what happens.

Mark ------------ Keith at 3/9/2003 8:47:30 AM

Hi Mark; Been out of town for a while..... Did you get your new tires and have they made a diffrence? Keith ------------ Mark at 2/26/2003 5:07:00 PM

Keith,

Sounds like Toyota has many vibration problems.

I also drove 2 other 2003 V8 4Runners on the dealer's lot. One was a V8 Sport similar to mine and had the same vibration although not as bad as mine. The other was a V8 Limited which had NO vibration at all.

The vibration occurs over 72 mph in overdrive (5th gear) and out of overdrive (4th gear) only when the vehicle is under load. The vibration also occurs with the Transfer Case Locked and Unlocked. If I take my foot off of the throttle when the vibration is occuring the vibration instantly stops. It IS a torque induced vibration which I am guessing is comming from a driveshaft, differential, or transfer case.

The dealer has done some testing on demo v8 4Runner with a simialr vibration problem. They removed the front shaft (transfer case to front axle) and locked the transfer case and the vibration went away. They then took the front shaft out of the V8 Limited which did not have any vibrations and put it into the demo V8 Runner and the problem came back. What they did not do was remove the rear shaft and see what happens. This would have told them if the transfer case was causing the vibration. I suggested this test to them but they have not tried it yet.

The local Toyota Tech rep was at the dealer yesterday to work on the vibration problem and concluded they are going to put new tires on my Runner (Michelins replacing the Dunlops). They said this will fix the problem. I really don't think this will do anything other than give me 2 out of 3 attempts to fix the problem. I only need 3 before I can claim the lemon law. (The dealers 1st attempt was to balance the tires?? Which I told them was not the problem because if the tires were out of balance the vibration would happen with or without the throttle pressed.)

I will let you know what happens.

Mark



------------ Keith at 2/24/2003 9:31:25 PM

Mark; I have a 2002 Limited 4runner with 8,000km (Canada) on it. I noticed the same vibration at around the same milage. The ya-ya-ya-ya drown usually starts at 90km/hr and is noticable to 130km/hr. After that, at 140 I can't hear it any more. It only seems to happen when the transmittion is in lock-up mode in 5th gear. If you drop it into 4th the noise will go away. At 120km per hour the ya-ya as I call it repeats 2 times every second. I recently went back to my dealer and took another 2003 v-8 4-runner out for a test, unfortunatly it had the exact same sound, just not as promenant. Also the noise is only there when your foot is on the gas and the truck is under load. I can feel it in the shifter, stering wheel, and peddles. My guts tell me it's the transmittion, if it was any other part of the driveline it would br constant. Remember, it is a new 5 speed we are dealing with. When the v-6 comes out, it will tell all, as it has only a 4-speed trans. Keith.





------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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04/09/2003 10:38 AM  
Is this problem only noted on the V8 models?

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------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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04/10/2003 10:54 AM  
Daniel, I bought a 03 SR5 on March 22 and have a vibration between 60-70 miles per hour. It is not real bad, so i thought it was a balance problem. The dealer has the truck right now and say they cannot duplicate it. I have Bridgestones on my 4Runner and still think it is the tires, but if you said they changed them with no luck, I am not really sure. My truck is not a 4x4, is yours? Is it Cherokee County in GA? I bought mine at Marietta Toyota. Unrelated, does your truck have Daytime Running Lights? Apparently , a lot of the Toyota literature says that it is standard on SR5s and Limiteds, but only the Limiteds have it. I was told by my salesperson that I had it, but of course I do not. They said it would cost $700-800 to add since they would have to change a wiring harness. I know many do not like DRL's but in the 4Runner it is only the turn signal that lights up.

Craig ------------ Daniel Levy at 3/20/2003 6:50:31 AM

I have a brand new Toyota 4Runner SR5 with a horrible Vibration above 50 miles. I purchased this from Cherokee County Toyota, after replacing a set of new tires (Dunlap) with Michelin tires I still have the problem, the dealer refuses to help me claiming that this is "normal road noise". At this point I am seeking legal advised to take them to court, refusing to help and resolve the issue (700 miles on this vehicle). In addition I like to mention the Sulfer smell that won't go away. Any assistance anyone can provide will be greatly appreciated.

------------ christopher bishopp at 2/7/2003 12:32:29 AM

Hi Mark, I have a message on here regarding my 2003 Tundra( same engine I think) I get an intermittent growling noise with a corresponding vibration through the floor when the truck is driven after being idle for a few hours. The noise fades away after about 5 miles. Used to disappear after 2 miles so it's getting worse. The dealer and Toyota acknowlege the problem and Toyota is "working on a solution". There is one person in the US that I know of who had the same problem and after a lot of hassle with Toyota got them to change the front differential; it solved the problem. I think that is my problem and probably yours. I hope Toyota isn't stalling. Hope this helps.



Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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04/12/2003 12:04 AM  
Just wanted to throw my hat in the ring. My 2003 sr5 only has 500 miles on it. I have yet to even take it back to the dealer. My truck is the 5 speed v-8 with Mich. tires. This is not a tire issue. Im going to bookmark this page and keep an eye on how you guys do. Good luck. ------------ vpnguy at 4/9/2003 10:37:34 AM

Is this problem only noted on the V8 models?

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------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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04/12/2003 4:53 PM  
------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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04/12/2003 4:56 PM  
My 2003 4Runner Limited V8 has a slight vibration - mostly under load. You feel it in the steering wheel/pedals. It's minor, but noticeable.

------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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04/13/2003 8:13 PM  
Sounds like the same problem I have. The dealer has still not solved the problem on my Runner. They changed the front diff. last week and the problem is still there.

The vibration is worse with colder weather. I live in Wisconsin and the weather is now in the 50s and 60s and the vibration is not as bad. Toyota Engineering is working on the problem.

On the bright side I now have 6000k miles and the vehicle is great.

Mark S.

------------ Mark at 4/12/2003 4:55:38 PM

My 2003 4Runner Limited V8 has a slight vibration - mostly under load. You feel it in the steering wheel/pedals. It's minor, but noticeable.

------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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04/14/2003 11:03 AM  
The V8 4runner is a full time 4 wheel drive and a full time 4x4 will have more vibrations whitch is normal because more things are turning like another drive shaft, front end,and axels,If it is a 2 wheel drive it will run a bit smoother.This is my findings when i had a full time jeep with quad track a 1974.Lots of people installed kits to make it part time and not full time .Also the front wheels are under power in a full time and more to keep in balance.fred. ------------ at 4/14/2003 10:49:28 AM



------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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05/06/2003 8:49 PM  
I just picked-up my '03 Toyota 4-Runner SR5 V8 from the dealer for the third time after having it in the shop with vibration issues. I bought it one month ago. On the test drive, we noticed a slight vibration at higher speeds. The salesman told us the tires were "flat-spotted" from sitting on the hot asphalt (Mobile, Alabama) and it would "fix itself" after putting a few miles on the vehicle. Needless to say, it did not. They keep telling me its fixed, but each time I pick it up the vibration is still as present as ever. My vehicle came with the up-graded Enkei rims and Michelin tires.



------------ Patrick at 4/12/2003 12:03:47 AM

Just wanted to throw my hat in the ring. My 2003 sr5 only has 500 miles on it. I have yet to even take it back to the dealer. My truck is the 5 speed v-8 with Mich. tires. This is not a tire issue. Im going to bookmark this page and keep an eye on how you guys do. Good luck. ------------ vpnguy at 4/9/2003 10:37:34 AM

Is this problem only noted on the V8 models?

------------ at 3/12/2003 9:22:15 AM



------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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05/11/2003 10:39 AM  
YOU IDIOTS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU! I HAVE A V8 LIMITED WITH 4000 MILES AND HAVE NO PROBLEMS! DID YOU GUYS FORGET THE BREAKIN PERIOD? SPEEDS NOT TO EXCEED OVER 55-60 MILES AN HOUR FOR THE FIRST THOUSAND MILES! TRY BREAKING THE VEHICLE IN FIRST IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE........
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------------ at 4/13/2003 8:13:23 PM

Sounds like the same problem I have. The dealer has still not solved the problem on my Runner. They changed the front diff. last week and the problem is still there.

The vibration is worse with colder weather. I live in Wisconsin and the weather is now in the 50s and 60s and the vibration is not as bad. Toyota Engineering is working on the problem.

On the bright side I now have 6000k miles and the vehicle is great.

Mark S.

------------ Mark at 4/12/2003 4:55:38 PM

My 2003 4Runner Limited V8 has a slight vibration - mostly under load. You feel it in the steering wheel/pedals. It's minor, but noticeable.

------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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06/06/2003 4:28 PM  
I also have a 2003 4Runner Limited with the V8. I noticed the vibration in the steering wheel and floor shortly after I received it. I had it back to the dealer numerous times until they finally brought in a Toyota tech with some instruments to detect and measure vibration. They spent a day and documented the vibration. They were taking the results back to analyze them. I have not heard anymore, but think they will try to write this off as functioning as designed. Has anyone heard anything more from their dealers or Toyoto? I also have the sulfer smell once in a while, but I guess I can live with it. The only other thing I noticed is the winshield seems to get covered in bug residue rather quickly. It seems as if the airflow over the hood directs the bugs right into the windshield. I might try an air deflector to save on the washer fluid.... Otherwise I really love the vehicle.... ------------ at 4/13/2003 8:13:23 PM

Sounds like the same problem I have. The dealer has still not solved the problem on my Runner. They changed the front diff. last week and the problem is still there.

The vibration is worse with colder weather. I live in Wisconsin and the weather is now in the 50s and 60s and the vibration is not as bad. Toyota Engineering is working on the problem.

On the bright side I now have 6000k miles and the vehicle is great.

Mark S.

------------ Mark at 4/12/2003 4:55:38 PM

My 2003 4Runner Limited V8 has a slight vibration - mostly under load. You feel it in the steering wheel/pedals. It's minor, but noticeable.

------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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06/06/2003 8:33 PM  
I also have a 2003 4Runner Limited with the V8. I noticed the vibration in the steering wheel and floor shortly after I received it. I had it back to the dealer numerous times until they finally brought in a Toyota tech with some instruments to detect and measure vibration. They spent a day and documented the vibration. They were taking the results back to analyze them. I have not heard anymore, but think they will try to write this off as functioning as designed. Has anyone heard anything more from their dealers or Toyoto? I also have the sulfer smell once in a while, but I guess I can live with it. The only other thing I noticed is the winshield seems to get covered in bug residue rather quickly. It seems as if the airflow over the hood directs the bugs right into the windshield. I might try an air deflector to save on the washer fluid.... Otherwise I really love the vehicle....

------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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06/16/2003 2:17 PM  
Carlo, it appears you are the IDIOT since you ASSUME that you know it is a break-in problem. Please tell me in your ultimate wisdom how you can say that the many people here all did not follow your divine advice on break-in........ ------------ Carlo at 5/11/2003 10:38:35 AM



YOU IDIOTS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU! I HAVE A V8 LIMITED WITH 4000 MILES AND HAVE NO PROBLEMS! DID YOU GUYS FORGET THE BREAKIN PERIOD? SPEEDS NOT TO EXCEED OVER 55-60 MILES AN HOUR FOR THE FIRST THOUSAND MILES! TRY BREAKING THE VEHICLE IN FIRST IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE........
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06/19/2003 10:55 AM  
Hi Christopher, I have a 2003 4WD Tundra Limited w/ the same problem. I feel the cyclical vibration thru the floorboards when driving btwn 30 - 40 mph. It's worse on cold days and eventually goes away after ~15 miles of driving. Engaging 4WD causes the vibration to go away, but when I disengage, the vibration comes back. I was told by the dealer that Toyota is aware of the problem and that they are working on a "possible repair to address vibration and noise (60 - 90 days out for repair), will possibly reduce but not totally aleviate noise/vibration." This was at the beginning of April, so I'm waiting until July 03 to see what they come up with.

Does this sound like the same problem that you had before getting your differential replaced??

Thanks, Jonathan

------------ christopher bishopp at 2/7/2003 12:32:29 AM

Hi Mark, I have a message on here regarding my 2003 Tundra( same engine I think) I get an intermittent growling noise with a corresponding vibration through the floor when the truck is driven after being idle for a few hours. The noise fades away after about 5 miles. Used to disappear after 2 miles so it's getting worse. The dealer and Toyota acknowlege the problem and Toyota is "working on a solution". There is one person in the US that I know of who had the same problem and after a lot of hassle with Toyota got them to change the front differential; it solved the problem. I think that is my problem and probably yours. I hope Toyota isn't stalling. Hope this helps.



Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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06/22/2003 8:26 PM  
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I have heard of a balancing issues with the rear drive line(s)? I don't have the 2003 4-runner or Tundra, but I have heard numerous comments about the various issues...

I think its safe to say, the NEW V-6 in the 03 4-runner is a test bed. I have heard of numerous engine issues! And its fair to say regardless of the Engine option in the 4-Runner, its a whole new truck that is going to have issues, which toyota will most likely fix for the 2004 production run.

I just purchased a 2003 Toyota Tacoma, SR5, Ext Cab, 3.4L V-6, TRD truck. I was going to wait for the 2004 with the NEW 4.0L V-6 and re-styled body, but decided to go with a proven production run and solid engine configuration thats been used for 5+ years...

Might go with a 2005 or 2006 Tacoma once the bugs are worked out of the NEW model...

Good luck guys....

Seattle Washington

------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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06/23/2003 10:58 AM  
Great link on the toyota 4runner.

http://www.yotatech.com/index.php?s=69c266cba2d02fe1d8f2d0229f3ad441
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I have a 2003 V6 sport. There are 2 problems that the deaaler cannot fix. There is a driveline vibration between 50 and 55 mph when the lock-up clutch engages. But only when throttle is applied. The vibration is not there when coasting and with the lock-up clutch dissengaged. (I have the 4 speed auto tranny). THe vehicle also has a high speed tremor which starts at approx. 65mph and gets worse as speed increases. It is felt in the stearing wheel and also through the peddles. Any loose wires (cell phone) also tremor. THe vehicle has been in the shop 3 times, first for the lock-up clutch vibration. First I was told they checked other 4 runner which also did the same thing. On the second attempt to fix it, the tech said he could not feel the vibration. On the high speed tremor, the tech did feel the problem during the test drive. All wheels were balanced and I was told that during the test drive, all was fine. But also they compared other 4 runners and mine drove the same way. When I drove it home that night, the tremor started at approx. 80mph but was relatively smooth below that speed. Later in the drive, the tremor occured between 70 and 80 mph. Sometime you could see the steering wheel wobbling, sometimes not. The problem did not change on different road surfaces. I had told the service manager during the last visit that it would be the last attempt to fix the problem. If it still occurred, I would then write to Toyots asking for a replacement vehicle, failing that, I would pursue a lemon law suit. I call the manager to tell him the problem was still happening and that I would be contacting Toyota. he then told me that they had just received a notice from Toyota the the front end alignment settings had to change. I have therefore agreed to give them one more attempt to fix the problem. The tremor definately seems to come from the front end, so maybe it will work. I will wait to see how this turns out before doing any more on teh transmission vibration. ------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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08/15/2003 9:59 PM  
Problem solved!! Toyota replaced my 4Runner!!

Mark ------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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08/29/2003 9:37 PM  
Did Toyota make a design change on the replacement unit or are they simply hoping that the problem won't recur? I have an 03 V8 SE with 600 miles on it and mine is doing the same thing. Mine is a late 03 built in July 03. ------------ Mark at 8/15/2003 9:58:35 PM

Problem solved!! Toyota replaced my 4Runner!!

Mark ------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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09/03/2003 1:06 PM  
Mark, I was directed to this site by Charles Ofria w/Car Question. I have the same vibration on my 2003 4runner V8(AWD), as you and others here have written about. What is the latest on this vibration that you have heard? If you could share this information I would be very greatful. I see that on 8/15/2003 (9:58:35 PM) -there is a remark Problem solved!! Toyota replaced my 4Runner!! Was that yours? Thank You for your site and looking forward to hearing from you! If so could you elaberate on what steps you had to take and what state your in. Thanks Again!!!!!

Michael Atkins





I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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09/04/2003 7:23 AM  
It's pretty well known that you should NEVER, NEVER by a new model or 1st year of a redesigned car. They allways have problems. By holding out for 2nd year the auto maker should have the bugs worked out. I know it's tempting to get the first one on your block. But you'll pay for it in the long run. ------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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09/13/2003 11:06 AM  
Did the alignment change work?

Dave ------------ Paul at 8/3/2003 10:51:12 PM

I have a 2003 V6 sport. There are 2 problems that the deaaler cannot fix. There is a driveline vibration between 50 and 55 mph when the lock-up clutch engages. But only when throttle is applied. The vibration is not there when coasting and with the lock-up clutch dissengaged. (I have the 4 speed auto tranny). THe vehicle also has a high speed tremor which starts at approx. 65mph and gets worse as speed increases. It is felt in the stearing wheel and also through the peddles. Any loose wires (cell phone) also tremor. THe vehicle has been in the shop 3 times, first for the lock-up clutch vibration. First I was told they checked other 4 runner which also did the same thing. On the second attempt to fix it, the tech said he could not feel the vibration. On the high speed tremor, the tech did feel the problem during the test drive. All wheels were balanced and I was told that during the test drive, all was fine. But also they compared other 4 runners and mine drove the same way. When I drove it home that night, the tremor started at approx. 80mph but was relatively smooth below that speed. Later in the drive, the tremor occured between 70 and 80 mph. Sometime you could see the steering wheel wobbling, sometimes not. The problem did not change on different road surfaces. I had told the service manager during the last visit that it would be the last attempt to fix the problem. If it still occurred, I would then write to Toyots asking for a replacement vehicle, failing that, I would pursue a lemon law suit. I call the manager to tell him the problem was still happening and that I would be contacting Toyota. he then told me that they had just received a notice from Toyota the the front end alignment settings had to change. I have therefore agreed to give them one more attempt to fix the problem. The tremor definately seems to come from the front end, so maybe it will work. I will wait to see how this turns out before doing any more on teh transmission vibration. ------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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09/18/2003 5:01 PM  
Jack, thanks for the advice, but sometimes you just can't resist. I broke my rule of not buying the first year and am regretting it. I also have a vibration/shaking problem, especially over 55 mph. I had the tire balanced and rotated, but it still shakes. I take it in tomorrow for the dealer to figure out what the problem is. The last time I felt a shake like this was when I had bad shocks. With only 14,000 road miles, I can't believe it has bad shocks unless they were defective. No more first years cars for me again! ------------ Jack at 9/4/2003 7:23:16 AM

It's pretty well known that you should NEVER, NEVER by a new model or 1st year of a redesigned car. They allways have problems. By holding out for 2nd year the auto maker should have the bugs worked out. I know it's tempting to get the first one on your block. But you'll pay for it in the long run. ------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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09/20/2003 1:05 PM  
But then again, if you're in a position where you HAVE to buy a new vehicle, would you rather have a first year Toyota or a second year Ford, GMC or Chevy? I'll bet your first year Toyota will still end up being more reliable than any of the competitive products on the market, except perhaps the Pathfinder. ------------ Dave at 9/18/2003 5:01:25 PM

Jack, thanks for the advice, but sometimes you just can't resist. I broke my rule of not buying the first year and am regretting it. I also have a vibration/shaking problem, especially over 55 mph. I had the tire balanced and rotated, but it still shakes. I take it in tomorrow for the dealer to figure out what the problem is. The last time I felt a shake like this was when I had bad shocks. With only 14,000 road miles, I can't believe it has bad shocks unless they were defective. No more first years cars for me again! ------------ Jack at 9/4/2003 7:23:16 AM

It's pretty well known that you should NEVER, NEVER by a new model or 1st year of a redesigned car. They allways have problems. By holding out for 2nd year the auto maker should have the bugs worked out. I know it's tempting to get the first one on your block. But you'll pay for it in the long run. ------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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10/05/2003 6:54 PM  
Just out of curiosity what did you have to do to get them to replace your 4 Runner? Ive had numerous problems with mine and am considering asking for the same....And sorry, how many km did you have on yours?

Thanks Mark.





------------ Mark at 8/15/2003 9:58:35 PM

Problem solved!! Toyota replaced my 4Runner!!

Mark ------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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10/05/2003 9:36 PM  
I would love to know it also since I am having similar problems. It would be nice to have a replacement story so my dealer would have something to take back to Toyota.

Thanks, Dave ------------ Steve Elms at 10/5/2003 6:54:17 PM

Just out of curiosity what did you have to do to get them to replace your 4 Runner? Ive had numerous problems with mine and am considering asking for the same....And sorry, how many km did you have on yours?

Thanks Mark.





------------ Mark at 8/15/2003 9:58:35 PM

Problem solved!! Toyota replaced my 4Runner!!

Mark ------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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10/19/2003 6:49 PM  
Unbelievable. This thread has been going for quite a while and still no fix? One poster says problem solved (replaced) and no follow up? Another says new alignment specs from Toyota and no follow up? Why are these people disappearing?

I have 03 SR5 2WD V6 (build date 6-03), with the same problem but can't tell yet if it's wheels/tires or driveline or what. I'm taking it to a different dealer next week. Last visit was a "could not duplicate" ordeal. Any new info on this issue?
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10/20/2003 10:12 PM  
All,

Sorry I have not replied to any of your comments. (I am the person who had my 4Runner replaced by Toyota.) I have not visited the site since my vehicle has been replaced. The new truck has NO vibrations 4000 mi.

The course of action I took to convince Toyota to replace my vehicle was simpily threatened to claim the Lemon Law. You should have recieved a copy of your states Lemon Law when you purchased the vehicle from Toyota. They are required to give it to before you take ownership. I live in Wisconsin and the lemon law is very specific and consumer friendly. The dealer has 4 attempts to fix the problem within 1 year. If the problem is not resolved the owner has grounds to file for the Lemon Law and recieved full refund for the vehicle less a milage use fee for the miles drive before the first attempt to fix the problem. (Lemon Law vehicles can not be re-sold by dealers)

The dealer attempted to fix my vehicle 3 times with no success. After the 3rd attempt they told me there was nothing they could do to fix the problem. They told me Toyota Engineering was working on a fix. I told them they needed to attempt a 4th fix so I could file for the Lemon Law and get a new truck. This really got their attention and up the ladder my complaints went. The dealer would not attempt to fix my car the 4th time. At this time I made a call to Toyota Corporate Customer Service to file a formal complaint. (Advice I recieved from the dealer. Dealers can only do so much for customers. To get the ball rolling the customer must complain to Corporate.)

After explaining my problem and intentions to Corporate Toyota they finally agreed to buy back my truck and issue me a new one. (6 different phone conversations!! Was not easy by any means!!) May have helped I am a Test Engineer for a Military Truck Manufacure. No wool was pulled over my eyes. Lots of attempts though:)

My advice to all who are having similar vibrations problems is to research your lemon law and contact Corporate Toyota to file a claim. Be persistant and know what you want and be fair!!

Good Luck to all, Mark
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10/21/2003 6:31 PM  
Mark, could you please give a detailed description on the vibration you encountered. I have an '03 which has had a vibration since day 1 which is usually felt under accelleration. It recently has developed a shake in the steering wheel while on the highway. The shake occurs when there are rough spots or expansion joints. I think these are two seperate problems. Today I had it back in the shop and the area service rep was there for a test drive. He witnessed the shake. We then took his '04 4Runner out for a drive which had a very small amount of shake in similar situations. They have the OK to install a new stering rack next week. I think they are just guessing at a fix. I have seen others that have new tires which have corrected the shake. They have already used the special balance equipment with no luck. I will give them another chance before escalating. I have already opened a problem thru the call center.

I also discovered another problem Toyota had with the early 4Runners. I tried to use my trailer hitch and found it very difficult to put the hitch in the receiver. With a small had sledge I was able to get it and the pin in. The rep said there was a service letter out on this problem. The original hitch did not fit the receiver and should be replaced. I am not happy that later versions of the 03 started receiving a hitch that is rated at 7300lbs.

I have heard so many good things about Toyota, but I have been very frustrated with the number of problems and the trouble they have solving them. The area rep said he is very busy dealing with problems across all the lines. I don't know if that is a good sign for Toyota.

Thanks for the update. I think the lemon law research time is near.

Dave ------------ Mark at 10/20/2003 10:12:20 PM

All,

Sorry I have not replied to any of your comments. (I am the person who had my 4Runner replaced by Toyota.) I have not visited the site since my vehicle has been replaced. The new truck has NO vibrations 4000 mi.

The course of action I took to convince Toyota to replace my vehicle was simpily threatened to claim the Lemon Law. You should have recieved a copy of your states Lemon Law when you purchased the vehicle from Toyota. They are required to give it to before you take ownership. I live in Wisconsin and the lemon law is very specific and consumer friendly. The dealer has 4 attempts to fix the problem within 1 year. If the problem is not resolved the owner has grounds to file for the Lemon Law and recieved full refund for the vehicle less a milage use fee for the miles drive before the first attempt to fix the problem. (Lemon Law vehicles can not be re-sold by dealers)

The dealer attempted to fix my vehicle 3 times with no success. After the 3rd attempt they told me there was nothing they could do to fix the problem. They told me Toyota Engineering was working on a fix. I told them they needed to attempt a 4th fix so I could file for the Lemon Law and get a new truck. This really got their attention and up the ladder my complaints went. The dealer would not attempt to fix my car the 4th time. At this time I made a call to Toyota Corporate Customer Service to file a formal complaint. (Advice I recieved from the dealer. Dealers can only do so much for customers. To get the ball rolling the customer must complain to Corporate.)

After explaining my problem and intentions to Corporate Toyota they finally agreed to buy back my truck and issue me a new one. (6 different phone conversations!! Was not easy by any means!!) May have helped I am a Test Engineer for a Military Truck Manufacure. No wool was pulled over my eyes. Lots of attempts though:)

My advice to all who are having similar vibrations problems is to research your lemon law and contact Corporate Toyota to file a claim. Be persistant and know what you want and be fair!!

Good Luck to all, Mark
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10/22/2003 1:41 PM  
Dave,

The vibration problem my 4Runner had was explained in the origianl post but here it is.

At highway speeds over 72 mph a vibration could be heard and felt on the floor boards and pedals. Driver and passenger sides. (Druming sound about 2 beats per second, 2 Hz) If I took my foot off of the throttle and coasted the vibration disappeared. This is not a tire problem!!! If it were a tire problem the vibration would not go away by simpily removing the power, the tires still spin when coasting right:) The vibration was also worse in colder weather and assending hills on the highway.

The dealer tried 3 times to fix the problem: 1.) Balanced Tires (I told them this was a waste of time) 2.) Replaced original Dunlop tires with Michelins. (Again waste of time) 3.) Replaced the front differential from the tech reps 4Runner which did not have the vibration like my truck. (No change, although the tech rep said the problem was fixed and closed my case.)

Sounds like you have a similar vibration to my truck with an additonal problem which maybe a bad ball joint, steering rod joint, or control arm bushing. If the vibration only occurs when hitting rough roads it is probably suspension related. (Hard to diagnosis)

FYI: You should have recieved a recall for your trailer hitch problem.

Good Luck, Mark
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10/22/2003 5:51 PM  
Mark,

Thanks for the detail. This post is getting so long and I have a low speed connection so I hesitate going back thru the posts. I think my vibration is a little different since I feel it at a lower speed and I felt it in the reps '04 4Runner. It seems the new 4Runner has several different vibration problems. Is your new vehcle vibration free?? I can feel vibration in the steering wheel and turn signal stalk under accelleration even at speeds around 40+. My friend just got a Lexus GS300 and it has some vibration in it. He also has a shake and the dealer is going to replace his tires.

I should be getting a new steering rack next week and will be interested in if it gets rid of the shake. If not, then I guess they will have to replace something else.

The rep said I should have received a letter on the hitch, but I never did. A small hand sledge made the first one fit.

Thanks for the info and I am glad it worked out so well for you.

Dave ------------ Mark at 10/22/2003 1:40:48 PM

Dave,

The vibration problem my 4Runner had was explained in the origianl post but here it is.

At highway speeds over 72 mph a vibration could be heard and felt on the floor boards and pedals. Driver and passenger sides. (Druming sound about 2 beats per second, 2 Hz) If I took my foot off of the throttle and coasted the vibration disappeared. This is not a tire problem!!! If it were a tire problem the vibration would not go away by simpily removing the power, the tires still spin when coasting right:) The vibration was also worse in colder weather and assending hills on the highway.

The dealer tried 3 times to fix the problem: 1.) Balanced Tires (I told them this was a waste of time) 2.) Replaced original Dunlop tires with Michelins. (Again waste of time) 3.) Replaced the front differential from the tech reps 4Runner which did not have the vibration like my truck. (No change, although the tech rep said the problem was fixed and closed my case.)

Sounds like you have a similar vibration to my truck with an additonal problem which maybe a bad ball joint, steering rod joint, or control arm bushing. If the vibration only occurs when hitting rough roads it is probably suspension related. (Hard to diagnosis)

FYI: You should have recieved a recall for your trailer hitch problem.

Good Luck, Mark
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01/14/2004 9:48 AM  
I wanted to let everyone know that I filed a lemon law complaint about this cronic vibration problem with my 2003 V8(AWD), 4runner. I hired an Attourney and in Nov. 2003 Toyota was forced by Florida's Attourney Generals Office to buy back my vehicle. Toyota treated me like I was a second class citizen. What a bunch a butt-heads. I was very disappointed with Southeast Toyota,to say the least. Especially after spending $40,000.00. Thier upper mangagement were quite evil as my Attourney stated! It is very obvious that Toyota is aware of thier vibration problems, but don't know how to fix it!!!!!! With so many complaints you would think they would suspend production until they have a fix. But in reality they would also have to stop production of the Lexsus GX470 since the Lexus is based on the Runners chassis and has a lot of the same conponents. Also I have heard that hundreds of Lexus GX470 owners are experiencing this vibration problem as well. Good Luck! ------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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------------ Daniel Levy at 3/20/2003 6:50:31 AM

I have a brand new Toyota 4Runner SR5 with a horrible Vibration above 50 miles. I purchased this from Cherokee County Toyota, after replacing a set of new tires (Dunlap) with Michelin tires I still have the problem, the dealer refuses to help me claiming that this is "normal road noise". At this point I am seeking legal advised to take them to court, refusing to help and resolve the issue (700 miles on this vehicle). In addition I like to mention the Sulfer smell that won't go away. Any assistance anyone can provide will be greatly appreciated.

------------ christopher bishopp at 2/7/2003 12:32:29 AM

Hi Mark, I have a message on here regarding my 2003 Tundra( same engine I think) I get an intermittent growling noise with a corresponding vibration through the floor when the truck is driven after being idle for a few hours. The noise fades away after about 5 miles. Used to disappear after 2 miles so it's getting worse. The dealer and Toyota acknowlege the problem and Toyota is "working on a solution". There is one person in the US that I know of who had the same problem and after a lot of hassle with Toyota got them to change the front differential; it solved the problem. I think that is my problem and probably yours. I hope Toyota isn't stalling. Hope this helps.



Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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06/04/2004 12:43 AM  
Hey, I have a 2003 4 ruuner limited awd/4wd and i noticed that vibration thing in october of 2003, took it to a dealer about 3 months ago and they said nothing wrong and another dealer said wouldnt take the vehicel over 65 mph, against the law to drive over that. vibration/throbbing happens around 75mph, let it go thinking that's what 4wd's do, i've never had a 4wd before. what do do, glad i found this site, i thought i was imagining things when i first heard that noise, and u can kinda feel it through the floor, "throbbing" is a great way to describe it. ------------ michael at 1/14/2004 9:47:45 AM

I wanted to let everyone know that I filed a lemon law complaint about this cronic vibration problem with my 2003 V8(AWD), 4runner. I hired an Attourney and in Nov. 2003 Toyota was forced by Florida's Attourney Generals Office to buy back my vehicle. Toyota treated me like I was a second class citizen. What a bunch a butt-heads. I was very disappointed with Southeast Toyota,to say the least. Especially after spending $40,000.00. Thier upper mangagement were quite evil as my Attourney stated! It is very obvious that Toyota is aware of thier vibration problems, but don't know how to fix it!!!!!! With so many complaints you would think they would suspend production until they have a fix. But in reality they would also have to stop production of the Lexsus GX470 since the Lexus is based on the Runners chassis and has a lot of the same conponents. Also I have heard that hundreds of Lexus GX470 owners are experiencing this vibration problem as well. Good Luck! ------------ Mark at 1/27/2003 2:02:59 PM

I recently purchased a 2003 4Runner Sport V8 and have a driveline vibration over 70 mph. (A throbbing which can be heard and felt on the floor boards.) The dealer agrees there is a vibration (not tires) but has no idea how to fix it. The truck only had 600 mi when the problem was discovered.

Has anyone been having driveline vibration with 2003 4Runners? What is the problem? Bad driveshafts? Bad differentials? Transfer case?
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